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Strategies for More Eyeballs

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I haven't seen a lot of posts. How can we get more users to join? What is it that might be discouraging them? Are they confused? Do they not see the advantage of having a tech support forum dedicated to both Unix and Linux?

Perhaps we need to find forum notes on the web where people have figured out typical Linux problems, then repost them in our forums, then index this on Google and the other search engines? I dunno.

Perhaps there's some good competition out there -- other people running vBulletin and phpBB on similar topics. The thing I like about this one is the moderation, the cool headedness of the community, the open-ness of ideas, and the acceptance of fair criticism that doesn't go too far.

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Re: Strategies for More Eyeballs
"supermike" wrote:

I haven't seen a lot of posts. How can we get more users to join? What is it that might be discouraging them? Are they confused? Do they not see the advantage of having a tech support forum dedicated to both Unix and Linux?

And free (as in freedom) Unix at that. Eye I don't think they have much to be confused about. It's a standard looking forum site with a pretty straightforward introduction. I doubt that people that do come would have a hard time getting what this site is. So, the reason for people not coming is probably something else.

I think there's just not enough awareness about it yet. Apparently getting picked up by news sites only once isn't enough so we should find a way to make get some attention a few more times.

Maybe the best continious way to "stay in the media" so to say, is to write useful content ourselves, and that is planned. The content would be published on Nuxified.com and discussions on it encouraged here (linked to from those stories).

Of course, it would be good to do something rather unique here, find a way to largely differentiate Nuxified Forums from other forums like LinuxForums.org and LinuxQuestions.org. Some differences are obvious already, like we're running phpbb and have promised to run Free Software exclusively while those other forum sites already switched to proprietary.

But we need to differentiate ourselves even further. I'll be brainstorming on this myself, but everyone is encouraged to propose ideas too. Some ideas already proposed should be applied though, like that solutions page idea we had, but haven't finalized..

"supermike" wrote:

Perhaps we need to find forum notes on the web where people have figured out typical Linux problems, then repost them in our forums, then index this on Google and the other search engines? I dunno.

I wouldn't do that actually. It is better to create content here in this community instead of going out and just taking from other forums.

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We need more eyeballs. Smiling I'd say forums are ready. I even did some "beautifying" so they have a possibly even more appealing design while not sacrificing speed like some other sites. I will openly say, from what I am seeing, LFDO (those who know it will know the acronym) is slow, bloated, laden with advertising and not particularly good looking (just look at its not so proportionate topic view). Nuxified.org is good looking, fast, with no annoying ads and friendly, run by people who truly care! It is a perfect GNU/Linux and Free Software support site!

So, how do we bring more people in. In addition to what I said above, writing and publishing articles, we could find some other ways to advertise this site. If you have a blog and haven't linked to Nuxified.org yet, but you like it, there's your chance. You can let us know you linked us in this thread to get recognition for it.

Another thing I had in mind which I'm not sure would work is to gather funds to pay a high profile advertisement on a site like possibly distrowatch.org. Have you noticed LFDO links and banners there recently? Well, sure the new owner has plenty of money to buy those spots. Maybe it is at least remotely possible to gather enough to get some of that advertising space ourselves..

Anyway, that's just an idea..

I invite you that, if you care enough, propose your own idea on how best to spread the word! Smiling

Thank you
Daniel

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I think things like the writers team will help with publicity, as supermikes firewall showed when it got dugg.

I have the nxfd.org link on my website, though I think I'll add it to my email sig.

We'll have to see what we can do about corporate advertising.

dylunio

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What you need, Libervisco, is a slot of time on CNN and Fox News! Smiling

And if you can't get that, then consider getting AP video to pick up an interview with you or perhaps post a totally fake, funny one on youtube.com that somehow promotes the forums and the ideals of FLOSS.

And if still that won't work, then consider the LLTS radio hour that comes on every week on the Internet.

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We might try and get a mention on LUGRadio, that will bring eyeballs.

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Interesting ideas! I doubt we could get on CNN and Fox News, but being mentioned in internet radio shows and podcastings is already reachable.

I'm not sure about youtube.com though. I don't have a camera (except one meant for taking pictures that can also take a few seconds of mute video).

Actually, it is planned that we release a Libervis Network podcast of our own. We could have that (or even some excerpts of that) picked up for these radio shows and other podcasts.

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talking about podcasts, what about getting livervisco on systemtrash ? lol.

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What is systemtrash? Smiling

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Where are the eyeballs? So

Where are the eyeballs? So far it's like a club of 50 users with only perhaps 10 or 12 coming here regularly? A lot of questions go unanswered. I try my best, as do some others on the writers team, but unfortunately I have to work this drudge-work at my day job. At nights, I'm at my kids' events, doing chores, or doing the moonlight startup thing.

It's exasperating. Even when any of us write a killer article here or there, bringing in perhaps 25,000 users, only 10 sign up?

 If that's the case, then you have to go back and think, what is it that's just not hitting the need? I know there's a need out there, so what's the magic touch that gets them in the door?

Is groups.google.com really sucking all this need away? Or can you differentiate yourself even more than what you get with other forums and newsgroups?

Plus, do you need more marketing, such as showing up for a call-in interview on the LLTS radio show? Or perhaps a scandal where you do the peace sign and wear a nuxified.org T shirt while standing behind GW Bush at a press conference?

 

 

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optimism

Well we've just had this big redesign and a merge which means we should be getting a bit more traffic now that traffic that used to come to old Nuxified.com comes here. There will (and some already are) be some Nuxified.com content imported as well accounting for a larger resource we have here that could be of interest.

That said I think people will start coming now that they see this new attractive, but progressive (as in not using the old phpbb anymore) site.

supermike wrote:

It's exasperating. Even when any of us write a killer article here or there, bringing in perhaps 25,000 users, only 10 sign up?

Previous killer articles, while they were indeed sensationally succesful, were still pointing to the old phpbb site that didn't have the flexibility and the kind of attractiveness that we have now. I am sure that the next article that gets published here will also have this new site play a better role at attracting people in. I mean, the very articles system is much better. I think that subconsciensly, people still do prefer reading articles in a real article page instead of a forum post. Smiling

supermike wrote:

If that's the case, then you have to go back and think, what is it that's just not hitting the need? I know there's a need out there, so what's the magic touch that gets them in the door?

Well, this is exactly one of the big advantages of moving to drupal - the ability to move in so many new directions while differentiating from existing sites and services. Besides forums we have articles such as tutorials and reviews, but inherited from the old Nuxified.com we might also have Free Software users testimonials section and the screenshots gallery. However, drupal allows so much more so possibilities are truly open. I will be brainstorming on them and I welcome anyone elses ideas as well. There is no other Free Software support site like Nuxified.org now. All other GNU/Linux and BSD related forums run either phpbb, vB and IPB, many of which are too commercialized (like LFDO is becoming) and loosing their core community values. We however have a fresh start, the true caring for Free Software, a new flexible web system in place and an sky as open as it can ever be!

supermike wrote:

Is groups.google.com really sucking all this need away? Or can you differentiate yourself even more than what you get with other forums and newsgroups?

You know, I sometimes ask myself the same thing only about IRC. Why do we need forums when you can just chat on IRC. The thing is though that no matter what, forums still have their firm place in the whole computer support infrastructure arena. Forums are at the same time "mainstream/newbie" friendly and usable to more advanced users. Also unlike newsgroups and IRC they are often part of a bigger integrated community site offering much more to compliment these forums all in the end making an experience worth sticking for. We just need to make that experience as best as possibly for everyone who comes here with interest in Free Software and of course, with questions, suggestions or knowledge to share about it.

supermike wrote:

Plus, do you need more marketing, such as showing up for a call-in interview on the LLTS radio show? Or perhaps a scandal where you do the peace sign and wear a nuxified.org T shirt while standing behind GW Bush at a press conference?

I'm not sure about the scandal, but I wouldn't mind at all if it would actually make a point. Getting featured in podcasts is one possibility, but for now I think it is best to focus on making the core of this site as best as possible while promoting it with word of mouth (that is, if you like Nuxified.org, please do invite your friends over here), buttons, banners, link exchanges, but also writing good, useful and therefore well propagating articles.

All that said, I am a big optimist about this site!

Oh and welcome to our new member, yanuar! (See? optimism!