Well the size is the same as it was, and as it is it can accomodate things like those OS links while the current height can fit a banner on the right which otherwise wouldn't fit.
The image can be further optimized to have a smaller file size.
It looks a bit corporate, doesn't it? And I miss the kicking "got nux?" tux, that was so cool... and tango icons... and the header looks big and heavy because it is so dark... and I just noticed the replies to polls look much better than the forums! Oh well, the design isn't finalised yet.
Be like google, put a "BETA" in the header
When in doubt, follow your heart (and notice that penguins are really cute).
You know, it would be easier to actually know what you want. For example, if you think replies to polls look much nicer than replies to forums then why the heck am I going through all the trouble of making forum replies look like phpbb replies. The forum replies should look like this *by default*.
This designs does maybe look a little bit corporate, but I thought it could attract a wider range of people that way, being kind of "mass friendly"..
So alright, I guess we need a redesign. I'll wait till we have more votes and then we'll see.
If you don't like this then tell me what you do like!
Just to let you know, we have tango icons in forums now.
As for the overall design, here's what I'd appreciate any feedback on:
- Do we need to change only the header or the rest of the site design as well, in your opinion?
- Would you like forum replies to look like comments (like this here) instead like forum posts?
- Any ideas for a new header? One of the reasons I dropped a mascot is because putting only Tux there makes us appear as we support only GNU/Linux while we support all Free Software. What is an alternative? Maybe we should think of and make our own little mascot?
I suppose what the new header should be is some kind of balance between this "corporate" feel and the more maybe "geeky" or "community" feel..
The forums look OK, only for some reason the text of posts ends up diagonally below the information about the poster, I don't think you intended it that way. Anyway, I like it when comments and forum posts look the same, and the comments look really good... but if you prefer the phpbb look, then change the look of the comments too.Â
When in doubt, follow your heart (and notice that penguins are really cute).
The forums look OK, only for some reason the text of posts ends up diagonally below the information about the poster, I don't think you intended it that way. Anyway, I like it when comments and forum posts look the same, and the comments look really good... but if you prefer the phpbb look, then change the look of the comments too.
It certainly isn't intended that way, but it seems that happens only on lower resolutions. Aren't you using 1024x768? On that it looks good. It is really a CSS problem and I might be able to fix it. Another option is to make forums be of full width and then it would also look good on 800x600.
I'm not sure about making comments in other areas look the same as forums.. I think that might end up a little ackward and maybe even confusing to some. But if alot of you would want that then it can be done.
Of course, making forum replies look like comments here is possible too, but that wouldn't look like phpbb anymore.
The thing is that various people will like it various ways. You might like it all unified (both comments on other sections and posts in forums), but the next guy may like the opposite. Ultimately we can't please everyone, but we can try to please most. What we need is for people to come out and say what they like. Otherwise it's gonna be decided without them.
Btw, you can see the new header above. I've talked about it in the last post here.
I don't like how polls are separate from the forums.
I don't have an answer to that. That's just how drupal does it. Polls are a separate node type in a separate vocabulary meaning it is a separate section.
This is obviously not phpbb and will never be phpbb. If that bears some disadvantages so be it, but there are advantages as well. Otherwise we wouldn't have switched.
The forums look OK, only for some reason the text of posts ends up diagonally below the information about the poster.
That has just been fixed. It was a CSS issue and I now set it to use only percentages therefore scaling well on various screen resolutions and window sizes.
My screen is 1024x768, but I almost never maximize firefox because I like to keep an eye on gaim, often also an xterm running irssi... Anyway, assuming everyone has 1024x768 AND likes to browse full screen is a bad idea.
My screen is 1024x768, but I almost never maximize firefox because I like to keep an eye on gaim, often also an xterm running irssi... Anyway, assuming everyone has 1024x768 AND likes to browse full screen is a bad idea.
Well I agree, and it has been fixed. Works fine now, right?
Some CSS has some issues where things are wrapping here or there, such as with buttons when you are not logged in and you look at the poll on the home page.
 And that's with FF 1.0.8 on Ubuntu Breezy.
I also miss the recent posts where it says who posted. I mean, I used to post something, do something else, then come back and check who posted a response. I can't do that anymore because it no longer tells me who made the post -- it just says the new post's title.
You also have to consider bandwidth. If you want to pay a lot of cash for bandwidth, then put a lot of fancy graphics on the homepage. But if you reduce the size and color depth just slightly (reducing color depth just slightly so you almost don't know it), you could have faster downloads and the ability to handle more users when you get reddited (reddit.com). (sidenote: Digg? What's that? The pages are designed to work in IE.)
 I would also recommend reducing the image size just slightly on avatars because that's also a page slower-downer and a way to eat up valuable bandwidth.
 However, there is a *lot* going on right with this new website redesign, so don't get me wrong here.
Thank you supermike for your observations/suggestions. I've noted the button problem with polls and I'll see if it can be prevented. What it basically does is put the same buttons you see on full view of the poll node into a block as well, but there should be a way to modify that.
supermike wrote:
I also miss the recent posts where it says who posted. I mean, I used to post something, do something else, then come back and check who posted a response. I can't do that anymore because it no longer tells me who made the post -- it just says the new post's title.
Well, one way is to look at the forum index and see where there are new posts as they are marked as such. There you can also see who posted the last one.. But I'll see if it's possible to implement the feature you'd like in "recent posts". Others please vote for these suggestions too as that way you increase it's priority and likelyhood of being implemented.
supermike wrote:
You also have to consider bandwidth. If you want to pay a lot of cash for bandwidth, then put a lot of fancy graphics on the homepage. But if you reduce the size and color depth just slightly (reducing color depth just slightly so you almost don't know it), you could have faster downloads and the ability to handle more users when you get reddited (reddit.com). (sidenote: Digg? What's that? The pages are designed to work in IE.)
We really aren't that image intensive. On homepage there are basically no images at all except, of course, for the header and avatars which are usually loaded once into users cash and not reloaded every time afterwards. If there are to be any significant bandwidth issue I might consider cutting it even further, but I really don't see a problem right now, and I have plenty of bandwith left to fill. The bigger issue than header and avatars would be screenshots in an image gallery that is coming, but I'll probably restrict the file size of screenshots to 1024 Kb's at the most.
supermike wrote:
I would also recommend reducing the image size just slightly on avatars because that's also a page slower-downer and a way to eat up valuable bandwidth.
It was actually another users request to allow avatars (user pictures) to be 100x100. However, there is also a file size restriction of 80kb so the dimensions don't really matter for bandwidth and page loading. I think 80kb should be reasonable.
Comments
The banner could be a bit
by tbuitenh | Mon, 2006-05-08 09:07The banner could be a bit smaller.Â
When in doubt, follow your heart (and notice that penguins are really cute).
Well the size is the same as
by libervisco | Mon, 2006-05-08 15:32Well the size is the same as it was, and as it is it can accomodate things like those OS links while the current height can fit a banner on the right which otherwise wouldn't fit.
The image can be further optimized to have a smaller file size.
I personally like how the
by Moparx | Mon, 2006-05-08 23:11I personally like how the site looks. Good job
I am really sorry to say it
by onlinebacon | Tue, 2006-05-09 09:24I am really sorry to say it although i do not think i like the design
which is sad. Although it isn't awful, just not to my taste
It looks a bit corporate,
by tbuitenh | Tue, 2006-05-09 13:17It looks a bit corporate, doesn't it? And I miss the kicking "got nux?" tux, that was so cool... and tango icons... and the header looks big and heavy because it is so dark... and I just noticed the replies to polls look much better than the forums! Oh well, the design isn't finalised yet.
Be like google, put a "BETA" in the header
When in doubt, follow your heart (and notice that penguins are really cute).
You know, it would be easier
by libervisco | Tue, 2006-05-09 14:06You know, it would be easier to actually know what you want. For example, if you think replies to polls look much nicer than replies to forums then why the heck am I going through all the trouble of making forum replies look like phpbb replies. The forum replies should look like this *by default*.
This designs does maybe look a little bit corporate, but I thought it could attract a wider range of people that way, being kind of "mass friendly"..
So alright, I guess we need a redesign. I'll wait till we have more votes and then we'll see.
If you don't like this then tell me what you do like!
Oh and yeah, I'll put a beta sign upthere..
Cheers
Daniel
Just to let you know, we
by libervisco | Tue, 2006-05-09 15:12Just to let you know, we have tango icons in forums now.
As for the overall design, here's what I'd appreciate any feedback on:
- Do we need to change only the header or the rest of the site design as well, in your opinion?
- Would you like forum replies to look like comments (like this here) instead like forum posts?
- Any ideas for a new header? One of the reasons I dropped a mascot is because putting only Tux there makes us appear as we support only GNU/Linux while we support all Free Software. What is an alternative? Maybe we should think of and make our own little mascot?
I suppose what the new header should be is some kind of balance between this "corporate" feel and the more maybe "geeky" or "community" feel..
Thank you!
Daniel
My ideas for the banner can
by tbuitenh | Tue, 2006-05-09 20:28My ideas for the banner can be found here.
The forums look OK, only for some reason the text of posts ends up diagonally below the information about the poster, I don't think you intended it that way. Anyway, I like it when comments and forum posts look the same, and the comments look really good... but if you prefer the phpbb look, then change the look of the comments too.Â
When in doubt, follow your heart (and notice that penguins are really cute).
Quote: The forums look OK,
by libervisco | Wed, 2006-05-10 01:51The forums look OK, only for some reason the text of posts ends up diagonally below the information about the poster, I don't think you intended it that way. Anyway, I like it when comments and forum posts look the same, and the comments look really good... but if you prefer the phpbb look, then change the look of the comments too.
It certainly isn't intended that way, but it seems that happens only on lower resolutions. Aren't you using 1024x768? On that it looks good. It is really a CSS problem and I might be able to fix it. Another option is to make forums be of full width and then it would also look good on 800x600.
I'm not sure about making comments in other areas look the same as forums.. I think that might end up a little ackward and maybe even confusing to some. But if alot of you would want that then it can be done.
Of course, making forum replies look like comments here is possible too, but that wouldn't look like phpbb anymore.
The thing is that various people will like it various ways. You might like it all unified (both comments on other sections and posts in forums), but the next guy may like the opposite. Ultimately we can't please everyone, but we can try to please most. What we need is for people to come out and say what they like. Otherwise it's gonna be decided without them.
Btw, you can see the new header above. I've talked about it in the last post here.
I don't like how polls are
by a thing | Wed, 2006-05-10 02:31I don't like how polls are separate from the forums.
ah well
by libervisco | Wed, 2006-05-10 02:38I don't like how polls are separate from the forums.
I don't have an answer to that. That's just how drupal does it. Polls are a separate node type in a separate vocabulary meaning it is a separate section.
This is obviously not phpbb and will never be phpbb. If that bears some disadvantages so be it, but there are advantages as well. Otherwise we wouldn't have switched.
fixed forum topic view
by libervisco | Wed, 2006-05-10 08:02The forums look OK, only for some reason the text of posts ends up diagonally below the information about the poster.
That has just been fixed. It was a CSS issue and I now set it to use only percentages therefore scaling well on various screen resolutions and window sizes.
Well done
by onlinebacon | Wed, 2006-05-10 08:37I actually am growing to like it a little, although not as easy to use as phpbb, that may be because i was used to it, nice job libervisco
to 1024x768 or not to 1024x768
by tbuitenh | Wed, 2006-05-10 08:48Aren't you using 1024x768?
My screen is 1024x768, but I almost never maximize firefox because I like to keep an eye on gaim, often also an xterm running irssi... Anyway, assuming everyone has 1024x768 AND likes to browse full screen is a bad idea.
agreed
by libervisco | Wed, 2006-05-10 16:09My screen is 1024x768, but I almost never maximize firefox because I like to keep an eye on gaim, often also an xterm running irssi... Anyway, assuming everyone has 1024x768 AND likes to browse full screen is a bad idea.
Well I agree, and it has been fixed. Works fine now, right?
Links friendly too As you
by AndrewB | Wed, 2006-05-10 17:11Links friendly too
As you can see, links and firefox in the background ;)Â
That's awesome Andrew!
by libervisco | Wed, 2006-05-10 17:24That's awesome Andrew!
Some CSS has some issues
by supermike | Fri, 2006-05-12 04:53Some CSS has some issues where things are wrapping here or there, such as with buttons when you are not logged in and you look at the poll on the home page.
 And that's with FF 1.0.8 on Ubuntu Breezy.
I also miss the recent posts where it says who posted. I mean, I used to post something, do something else, then come back and check who posted a response. I can't do that anymore because it no longer tells me who made the post -- it just says the new post's title.
You also have to consider bandwidth. If you want to pay a lot of cash for bandwidth, then put a lot of fancy graphics on the homepage. But if you reduce the size and color depth just slightly (reducing color depth just slightly so you almost don't know it), you could have faster downloads and the ability to handle more users when you get reddited (reddit.com). (sidenote: Digg? What's that? The pages are designed to work in IE.)
 I would also recommend reducing the image size just slightly on avatars because that's also a page slower-downer and a way to eat up valuable bandwidth.
 However, there is a *lot* going on right with this new website redesign, so don't get me wrong here.
Thank you supermike for your
by libervisco | Fri, 2006-05-12 06:47Thank you supermike for your observations/suggestions. I've noted the button problem with polls and I'll see if it can be prevented. What it basically does is put the same buttons you see on full view of the poll node into a block as well, but there should be a way to modify that.
I also miss the recent posts where it says who posted. I mean, I used to post something, do something else, then come back and check who posted a response. I can't do that anymore because it no longer tells me who made the post -- it just says the new post's title.
Well, one way is to look at the forum index and see where there are new posts as they are marked as such. There you can also see who posted the last one.. But I'll see if it's possible to implement the feature you'd like in "recent posts". Others please vote for these suggestions too as that way you increase it's priority and likelyhood of being implemented.
You also have to consider bandwidth. If you want to pay a lot of cash for bandwidth, then put a lot of fancy graphics on the homepage. But if you reduce the size and color depth just slightly (reducing color depth just slightly so you almost don't know it), you could have faster downloads and the ability to handle more users when you get reddited (reddit.com). (sidenote: Digg? What's that? The pages are designed to work in IE.)
We really aren't that image intensive. On homepage there are basically no images at all except, of course, for the header and avatars which are usually loaded once into users cash and not reloaded every time afterwards. If there are to be any significant bandwidth issue I might consider cutting it even further, but I really don't see a problem right now, and I have plenty of bandwith left to fill. The bigger issue than header and avatars would be screenshots in an image gallery that is coming, but I'll probably restrict the file size of screenshots to 1024 Kb's at the most.
I would also recommend reducing the image size just slightly on avatars because that's also a page slower-downer and a way to eat up valuable bandwidth.
It was actually another users request to allow avatars (user pictures) to be 100x100. However, there is also a file size restriction of 80kb so the dimensions don't really matter for bandwidth and page loading.
I think 80kb should be reasonable.
Thank you!
Daniel