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EasyLFS in the distrowatch-waiting-list, and download-numbers

Yes, EasyLFS has been included into the waiting-list on Distrowatch, and also has given a quick mentioned in the weekly newsletter.
This is quite a step forward and I hope that EasyLFS will be included into the main list soon (but I guess that might still take a while).

Also I want to give a quick overview of the current number of downloads. I cannot see if all downloads were completed, but if so then all the talk about EasyLFS must have made quite some waves.
EasyLFS has been downloaded 304 times! 252 times for 32-bit, 52 times for 64-bit. The installation-manual has been downloaded 323 times. These numbers are actually surprising me. Never before did I have so many downloads. But I guess that this really might be connected to all the information I have trickled all over the Internet about EasyLFS.

Well, I hope that people are happy with what I have done so far. Currently no work is being done on EasyLFS, but of course work on it will continue.


So waiting list means it'll

So waiting list means it'll get included, but is just waiting for the admin to get to it (building an official DW page)?

In any case congrats! These downloads were bound to happen and there'll probably be more coming. Smiling

Thank you. I don't know


Thank you.

I don't know what exactly it means. It seems that some distros are already in the waiting for list for quite a while.
And since the submission-form for new distros doesn't work I more or less had to guess what they need, so I just wrote a bit about it, included a link to the site and the package-list (that is mentioned that they need this to include it) and sent my mail.

Well, let's see if some day it pops up on the main list, but I really hope so.

DW needs competition. After

DW needs competition. After all these years of existing they could've done a proper submission form and while I'm at it, re-design the site to something more fitting to this century. Sticking out tongue

Oh well..

now there is a website

now there is a website idea... "completely-free-OS-watch"?

LFSize me


Wanted to cross post this from Linux Today. I am going to try and work my way eventually (hopefully early this year) to making serious headway in building a distro that is very newbie friendly and has been LFS'd.

Maybe other distros will LFSize their distros.

BTW, is something like LFS available for the main distros, and I just haven't seen it?

FOSD: free open source distros
Right now it almost feels (to me) like if the packages are FOSS but the distros themselves are proprietary mixes of the FOSS.

If more distros had something like the (shell) recipes Linux From Scratch provides, there would be a lot more sharing of great ideas, greater contributions from the community, an easier path for migrating from one distro to another, customizations and support would be more manageable, etc. There would be more experimenting with potentially great or just new ideas and packages simply because it would be easier to do so while still having a fallback recipe.

You would get more Windows admins on board because of all the power in their hands. Not to imply that people would build their distro from scratch, but they would have a guide to building the distro. It would be easier to service them and augment them and spin them with customizations that were reproduceable and shareable.

LFS allows you to build the entire distro from scrath. The LFS book tells you what to download, how to patch it, how to configure/make it, and it also tells you every other shell command you need to know to go from an empty second drive to filling it with a distro that boots and works. It is hard work though, and LFS is not yet as advanced as the majority of other distros. But it's the most Linuxy distro out there in terms of being the most transparent. [Anyone trying it should look at the "advanced" flavors (eg, ALFS) which are the ones that incorporate X and desktops.]

One problem that distros tend to have is that not enough know how to put one together from scratch (with a recipe) that experimentation with new ideas is not being done as much as it can be (cause you don't want to break something and not know what broke).

It would be nice to be able to pick your package management system, which init method will start things up, etc without breaking things.

It seems that when people want to make a distro with a theme, they pick the closest one and hack that one to death. At that point the distros diverge because there isn't a bread crumb trail to make it easy to back track arbitrarily and restart or to automate the conversion from the base distro to the new one.

LFSizing should make it easier to keep modular package managers and other things that seem to be woven into distros. It's not that some don't know how to build a distro, it's that most don't and don't have the blueprints yet they hack on distros making it less likely that they will ever find their way back.

With well-documented recipes, it will be easier to have one distro with many flavors/outfits (interchangeable) instead of many distros each mostly of one flavor. This way, you don't have to pick if the distro will cater to this or that group (eg, general purpose, Windows-aholics, hardcore, complete noobs, I-want-an-appliance, etc). The distro you get will be able to be transformed to suit your needs and current level of interest/expertise.

I think one of the first


I think one of the first steps I will take will be to buy a bunch of cheap hard drives and start setting up all LFS-like "distros" I come across in order to prod, experiment, and document.

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