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Happiness of Linux... Taken Away?

It doesn't seem so long ago that I've removed Windows, but it actually is. It's been about 7-9 months now and I've almost forgotten about Windows. If it wasn't for school, I probably would've.
It angers, and annoys me a great deal when my Microsoft-obsessed friends say that Linux is crap, and it can't do anything properly and it's so complicated for no reason. I mean, even when I was a Windows-user, I didn't think of it like that. They even admit that Windows is only powered by money which gave me satisfaction to shove that back in their faces. It makes me laugh when they call my PuTTY console MS-DOS and it makes me jump for joy when they complain about errors.

A funny thing I've noticed is that.. it doesn't bother me anymore when I find something I used to do under Windows is not currently possible in Linux. The somewhat 'peer-pressure' I receive from my peers also does not affect me any longer. The more that they tell me that it doesn't work and that it's unsupported, the more I bug them about their frustrations and annoyances. Push comes to shove, instead of defending Linux, I'm using it as offense.

I also receive weird answers when I talk about my accomplishments under Linux to them. An example would be: spyro_boy: "Cool! I got dual monitors at home! It rocks!"; some_windows_fan: "Oh. So? Who needs dual monitors?";
Really? I don't think I've ever met anyone who said that dual monitors were useless. Even non-geeks would want dual monitors just to have something 'cooler'-looking.

The thing that it all comes down to as per reasoning is that they're lazy as hell. I've had them admit it. I've also had them admit that Windows is all about money rather your enjoyment. I've also had them admit that Linux is superior, but the mystery still lies in the dark: Why do they continue to use this product that causes them so much cost and annoyance? I can't really put my finger on it, but it usually leads to games, useless programs, and a lack of energy and enthusiasm for the greater common good.

Symptoms like this are caused by products produced by mega-corporations like Microsoft. Both of Microsoft's franchises X-Box, and Windows have cause the narrow mindedness in people. So narrow that something like 'Trusted Computing' or 'Treacherous Computing' as Richard Stallman refers to it can be a reality. A scary reality indeed. Trusted Computing is a systematic, government controlled series of computers and software which gives them absolute control over everything you do and how you do it. A great article on this is located here http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.html written by Richard Stallman. In this article, he shows the downfalls for both GNU/Linux and a morally correct world when and if this sort of 'Treacherous computing' comes into play. Even though this 'Treacherous Computing' has been rejected once, posted TODAY at PolishLinux.Org an article that already a few countries have made it illegal to listen to your DRM-bought music in your favorite GNU/Linux media player. This article can be found here: http://polishlinux.org/gnu/drm-vista-and-your-rights/ . That is completely absurdity you might say, but oh-it's real alright. If we don't take action for our freedoms, they'll most likely be taken away.

Funny thing is.. both our freedom as GNU/Linux community and the DRM-user community will have their freedoms taken away. Except one at a higher cost than the other.

Trusted Computing Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_computing
Check that Wikipedia article and its many links at the bottom of the Wikipedia article.

I don't have any final words on this. It's just difficult to understand that our freedoms can be interupted so abruptly and inexcusably.

spyro_boy

Comments

This seams to be getting to

This seams to be getting to me as well in some way. One specific thing my friends know is that no matter how little it can run the latest version of Need For Speed, GNU/Linux is the only platform with a free-of-charge video editor that can handle stuff like blue boxen.

psychological disease

spyro_boy wrote:

Symptoms

Hehe, you make it sound like a psychological disease...

Now that I think about it, it is.

spyro_boy wrote:

but oh-it's real alright.

That makes it look like "oh-it's" is one word. Use an em dash.

a thing, are you sure you

a thing, are you sure you always use dashes correctly, i.e. differentiate between the en-dash «–» and the hyphen «-» ?

The former is very true. I

The former is very true. I have been 'made fun of' due to my OS for a while. It dies. It is like anything that is different. I used to have a mohawk hair cut. It was, without question, a different hair cut amongst our school. Friends used to take the 'monkey' out of it, but in reality, it was only cause it was different. I liked it, so I kept it.
When I started using GNU/Linux people didn't have a clue what it was. We had major debates in Computing Class about the freedom of OS and code. It was good stuff. After a good few classes people would talk about it. I was actually named 'Linux' for a while heh. Just the way of kids I suppose.
I was never offended by this, and took it in good will. It is not bullying in the slightest, its just the way of things. For instance the kid who moved from Cali is called 'Yank'. It died off after it wasn't anything new. We still talk about it often, but not as much anyway.
Friends have used my Linux computers, and they have really had no problem with it. And some how...god knows how, but girls always manage to get into Gaim and read your chat logs.
They go from knowing nothing, to that heh.
After a few years of using GNU/Linux people ignore the fact. I mean really..is it going to effect their life in any way? No.
They realise they were being pretty imature. [though it is still brought up from time to time heh...]

As I read back I look like I was bullied. That is not the case. I flare up fast and can have a quick temper..I wouldn't take bullying. Maybe just my mood. I was up till 5am, and had to get up at 6.

There is sometimes a thin

There is sometimes a thin line between bullying and just friendly joking around. Both eventually tend to vanish away, although if someone really has an urge to bully someone this may manifest even later in life.. Er.. some bosses come to mind. Laughing out loud

Anyway, in your case Andrew it seems like mostly just friendly stuff. Just as you, I'd infact be proud to be called a "Linux guy". Though during my high school I was at some point know as a Mac guy. Laughing out loud

This reminds me that the word of GNU/Linux seems to have reached high schools in a higher profile these months, as reported by my sister who says that they've got a few GNU/Linux powered computers in their classroom (for informatics subject) and she talks about how people make comments on GNU/Linux. So curiously, she said some guy said GNU/Linux is for those who like to show off. Laughing out loud

But there are apparently various opinions, and some people actually like to see a new OS. There will be lots of talks and controversy in the "mainstream" and among the general population as GNU/Linux penetrates their circles more and more. And once it becomes dominant, it'll probably be so normal noone would talk about GNU/Linux anymore. They'd talk about specific distros or programs or just use whatever they're used to (like Ubuntu today, which seems to be perceived as default GNU/Linux).

Maybe these strides help a critical amount of people reach the right conclusions about DRM for DRM and TC to fail. All we need is this critical mass willing to go around DRM and TC using alternatives even if it means public disobedience for DRM and TC to become a failure and for Free Software to win.

We need World Domination fast! Eye

Thanks

 
a thing wrote:
spyro_boy wrote:

Symptoms

Hehe, you make it sound like a psychological disease...

Now that I think about it, it is.

Indeed.

a thing wrote:
spyro_boy wrote:

but oh-it's real alright.

That makes it look like "oh-it's" is one word. Use an em dash.

Thanks for the advice. I'll use it the next time if I remember. :-)

libervisco wrote:

This reminds me that the word of GNU/Linux seems to have reached high schools in a higher profile these months, as reported by my sister who says that they've got a few GNU/Linux powered computers in their classroom (for informatics subject) and she talks about how people make comments on GNU/Linux. So curiously, she said some guy said GNU/Linux is for those who like to show off.

Yes, our Computer engineering course has about a WEEK of linux usage. Nothing much.. Sad

libervisco wrote:

They'd talk about specific distros or programs or just use whatever they're used to (like Ubuntu today, which seems to be perceived as default GNU/Linux).

Yes, they do precieve Ubuntu as GNU/Linux.. my friend did until I told them there's about a hundred different distributions of linux..

libervisco wrote:

We need World Domination fast!

I completely agree. :-)

I didn't bother to reply on AndrewB's comment. Just too many similarities to point out. :-)

One thing that also really

 

One thing that also really needs some education, which also might help to clear that view of one certain popular distro being the default/only Linux, is that Linux is only the kernel, the heart of the system, or, if you wish, what's basically the operating system. Everything around this, meaning interfaces to the user (this might be the CLI, GUI or also network-services) is extra software which is not Linux itself, but is still essential for every system.
And because of the freedom you have with Linux and free software everyone can cook their own soup (the distros), with lots of different ingredients (all the software). That's why there are a lot of distros, because somebody was looking around for "his" distro (meaning the one he's really happy with using) but couldn't find something. By the way, this reminds me of you libervisco, since you also don't seem to find "the one distro" you can be happy with until the end of time. ;-)
Another thing is config-tools. There should be more distro-independent config-tools for common stuff, and this then should be used in the distros. That every distro has it's own tools and sometimes even has a slightly different filestructure (meaning that /etc somehow looks totally different on every distro, although this seems to be getting better) makes it somehow weird to switch the distro, because you have to relearn how to configure your system, especially when you are used to funky tools like Yast.
I don't say that everyone should only work with config-files. Tools can sometimes make things a lot easier, especially with a config-monster like Squid, but editing config-files, at this time, seems to be the only portable way, meaning applicable to every distro.

Having these points in mind, especially the situation with distro-specific config-tools, it seems that world-domination is still a few steps away.
I guess it's up to us, the rest of the free-software-movement, and the ones we can influence like friends, but of course also our kids (I think it is our responsibility to teach our children about free software and it's wide range of advantages). Our kids are the ones who will really grow up with the computer by their side and if we support their development and the use of free software, the free force will be far stronger in them than it could ever be in ourselves. ;-) We will propably not be the ones to reach world domination, but we might still live to see it been done by our children.

Might be so. There are some

Might be so. There are some distro independent config tools in GNOME and KDE which most distros use extensively. Also, any Free Software tool developed for a specific distro can be compiled on some other distro as well so there is a chance of some of them becoming a standard across distros..

About world domination it looks more and more likely that it wont be by a collective of distros, but by one or two most popular ones which manage to provide everything that the new switchers are expecting. At this point the main contender for that appears to be Ubuntu. That's why I think world domination might happen even sooner. Most people wont even switch from that first distro they try. They'll just continue using that..

As for me no finding "the one distro", yeah.. I tend to be happy with a given distro for a while, but it somehow tends to wither away as it's not exactly it. I'm kind of balancing between my geek side and "must just work out of the box" side and there are some conflicts there. But now I make it sound like some sort of a psychological problem. It's only an OS. Laughing out loud

On the "just works" side Ubuntu really done quite a good job. My main complaints against it are what is behind that shiny surface, which sometimes conflicts with the "geek" side in me that likes to do it a bit differently sometimes.

my reply

 

I gave up on microsoft windows almost three years ago. I recently needed windows for some software I am wanting.

Do you realize how hard it is to learn windows ???
It all goes to what we are used to change can be difficult & in fact it is for me...

You're quite right about

You're quite right about that. It never was so much about Windows being so easy as much as it was about the people getting used to it first. There was and is a learning curve for both.

These days GNU/Linux may even be easier to learn for someone who never even saw a computer in his life before.

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