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Cooperation between GetGnuLinux.org and PolishLinux.org

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It is Libervisco who first brought to my attention that Nuxified.org, GetGnuLinux.org and PolishLinux.org could make a "powerful trio". Before that I just thought of them as "nice websites" without much more to it.

So, it could be good to discuss this further as indeed we fit well together. My vision of the how we fit together is as follows:

  • GetGnuLinux.org: Get people to want to try Linux (at least, know what Linux is and that it's not just something for geeks). At best, make them want to switch.
  • PolishLinux.org: Now people want to switch: friendly help and guides to start, plus articles to read.
  • Nuxified.org: Allow people to discuss anything Free Software once they switch or think about it.

(of course that's my vision! I'd be curious to read how you differ)

I believe Nuxified.org is doing pretty well at its job. Where I think we could improve is on both GetGnuLinux.org and PolishLinux.org (I mean both sites are good - I am simply refering to interaction).

So, on GetGnuLinux for example, the "Try and Install" page could point more directly to PolishLinux.org sections, with more detailed descriptions of installations.
The "Where to go now" page could point more precisely and more exclusively to PolisLinux.org content.

In turn, on PolisLinux.org we could focus more on articles for newcomers (I prefer that term to "newbies" or "beginners" ;-)).
For example I was thinking of articles such as a "five things to know if you come from Windows". That's the stuff I explain straight away to people I introduce to Ubuntu: how programs are installed (don't download things from the web), unmount or "eject" usb drives, what a root password is for, etc.
I'm not saying "that's what you should write", these are just proposals and of course I could help with such articles.

These thoughts come from the fact that now that GetGnuLinux.org seems to be going fine, there are many directions to go into. We (and especially I) can't do everything at once. I am good at doing advocacy (I believe), less so at writing GNU/Linux articles, much less at making an overview of a Ubuntu install with screenshots. So we could each concentrate on things we are good at.

If the role of each website becomes clearer with time, we could also detail it more for the newcomer. I am thinking, for example, of one page on each site presenting the role of each so the reader can know straight away where he should go (just a simple triangle diagram).

Anyway these are thoughts about some more long-term perspectives.
Right now for GetGnuLinux, I am thinking less about changing the site, than about organising the community and having a better overview of projects (I am experimenting with activeCollab right now). Then soon there will be translations coming. After that, I believe, we will be able to evolve more efficiently.

That's it! What a long post for just a few thoughts Smiling

Olivier.

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ariadacapo wrote: So, it
ariadacapo wrote:

So, it could be good to discuss this further as indeed we fit well together. My vision of the how we fit together is as follows:

* GetGnuLinux.org: Get people to want to try Linux (at least, know what Linux is and that it's not just something for geeks). At best, make them want to switch.
* PolishLinux.org: Now people want to switch: friendly help and guides to start, plus articles to read.
* Nuxified.org: Allow people to discuss anything Free Software once they switch or think about it.

Yes I think that would be the correct categorization. On Nuxified.org people who come from GGL and PolishLinux.org can ask further questions that they may have, whatever they need help with.

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If the role of each website becomes clearer with time, we could also detail it more for the newcomer. I am thinking, for example, of one page on each site presenting the role of each so the reader can know straight away where he should go (just a simple triangle diagram).

A triangle diagram would look interesting. Nice idea! We could all incorporate a short section for that in our about pages, describing the "trio". Smiling

Also I like those articles ideas you mentioned too.

We should also soon be starting the work on an article about our cooperation that should attract people directly to our sites, and then possibly cross interviews/articles presenting each site specifically. I think we need a promotional boost (and especially more activity in forums) and that could probably help.

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Some of my thoughts on the

Some of my thoughts on the subject below...

ariadacapo wrote:

It is Libervisco who first brought to my attention that Nuxified.org, GetGnuLinux.org and PolishLinux.org could make a "powerful trio". Before that I just thought of them as "nice websites" without much more to it.

So, it could be good to discuss this further as indeed we fit well together. My vision of the how we fit together is as follows:

  • GetGnuLinux.org: Get people to want to try Linux (at least, know what Linux is and that it's not just something for geeks). At best, make them want to switch.
  • PolishLinux.org: Now people want to switch: friendly help and guides to start, plus articles to read.
  • Nuxified.org: Allow people to discuss anything Free Software once they switch or think about it.

(of course that's my vision! I'd be curious to read how you differ)

Fully agree. Just to mention another PolishLinux.org goal which is to provide great resources on major popular GNU/Linux and BSD flavors and means to compare them and choose the right one for one's needs.

ariadacapo wrote:

I believe Nuxified.org is doing pretty well at its job. Where I think we could improve is on both GetGnuLinux.org and PolishLinux.org (I mean both sites are good - I am simply refering to interaction).

Also agree Smiling Nuxified.org needs just more users. GetGnuLinux and PolishLinux (especially the latter one) needs MUCH more content to fulfill its role better and provide a real alternative for Linux.org or Linux.com.

ariadacapo wrote:

So, on GetGnuLinux for example, the "Try and Install" page could point more directly to PolishLinux.org sections, with more detailed descriptions of installations.
The "Where to go now" page could point more precisely and more exclusively to PolisLinux.org content.

Good idea. I would also consider adding a link on the Choose a distribution page which would link to the Features comparison page on PolishLinux.org, with some note like: "There are many more Linux distros out there. For a comprehensive comparison of features of main Linux distros, go to..."

ariadacapo wrote:

In turn, on PolisLinux.org we could focus more on articles for newcomers (I prefer that term to "newbies" or "beginners" ;-)). For example I was thinking of articles such as a "five things to know if you come from Windows". That's the stuff I explain straight away to people I introduce to Ubuntu: how programs are installed (don't download things from the web), unmount or "eject" usb drives, what a root password is for, etc.
I'm not saying "that's what you should write", these are just proposals and of course I could help with such articles.

Some of these articles we already have:
- 10 reasons to dump Windows [part I] (parts II and II are coming soon)
- Root account (what is Root and when to use it) - in the "First steps" section
- File system and disks (including stuff like mounting a pendrive) in the "First steps" section

Still, I believe that the "Installation", "First steps" and "Apps" sections should be extended and include much more information. I will create a new thread on the forum so that everyone could suggest what kind of content should be added there.

ariadacapo wrote:

These thoughts come from the fact that now that GetGnuLinux.org seems to be going fine, there are many directions to go into. We (and especially I) can't do everything at once. I am good at doing advocacy (I believe), less so at writing GNU/Linux articles, much less at making an overview of a Ubuntu install with screenshots. So we could each concentrate on things we are good at.

Actually, we have an article about installing Mandriva waiting for final corrections in Polish. When it's published, the English translation will come shortly, I hope. Another similar articles may come as well - we already have a person who would like to write them, he just hasn't too much time lately...

ariadacapo wrote:

If the role of each website becomes clearer with time, we could also detail it more for the newcomer. I am thinking, for example, of one page on each site presenting the role of each so the reader can know straight away where he should go (just a simple triangle diagram).

Triangle seems like a good idea. We can set up a webpage on Librevis wiki to make a brainstorm about what shoudl be placed in a graph like that. When it's ready, our design guy could produce some nice graphics presenting it.

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busy busy...
libervisco wrote:

We should also soon be starting the work on an article about our cooperation that should attract people directly to our sites, and then possibly cross interviews/articles presenting each site specifically. I think we need a promotional boost (and especially more activity in forums) and that could probably help.

Yep, you're right. Unfortunately I have very little time lately, since I have the whole weekends busy (I'm trying to get a sailing licence) - it will take me next 2 weekends as well. Still during the week, after work I may find some time to think about it and perhaps write something as well.

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the triangle logo thing

I have one more idea. I'm thinking of a situation that someone visits PolishLinux.org but he/she does not have the slightest idea what GNU/Linux is. Then we should redirect him to GetGNULinux.org for basic information.
The other way around, if a person knows exactly why he wants to try Linux but doesn't know how to start and then he visits GetGNULinux, he should be informed that for installing, learning basics, configuring, choosing apps and finding more info, he should visit PolishLinux.org.
On both websites, we should also have some clear information that all Linux questions can be asked on Nuxified.org.

I was thinking about this triangle-logo thing... Maybe we should introduce some kind of banner of this kind and put it in a noticeable place on both 3 websites, making everyone aware that we cooperate and somehow create a "family of websites" providing comprehensive information on GNU/Linux from different perspectives.

What do you think about it?

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I like that triangle logo

I like that triangle logo idea. It would show us as an association of sites that plays along, each their own role and make it more obvious to visitors that together we pretty much offer a complete range of GNU/Linux and further Free Software services, that is, can together fill all their needs..

So yeah I agree with the idea.

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re: triangle

I like this idea too. This is a good thing to do.
Right now however I am very busy. After I come back more seriously to GetGNULinux.org, I will organise better the projects and translations.
When this will be done, what you describe here will be high in the list. There is a lot of potential in associating the websites in this way.

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