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Do You Think We Need a Command-Line Forum?

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supermike's picture
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Noticed that "Bash" doesn't really have a forum. I'm putting my stuff under Misc.

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You're the second one mentioning the need for a CLI forum. I'm hesitant at making new forums because we have alot of them already while not so many posts to fill them.

So let it go to Misc for now and then when it becomes big enough we'll split it and make a new CLI forum, among others possibly. How soon depends on how many people and how frequently in general will post.

Sustained activity and an increasing number of posts and posters is what we need to make this site hot and valuable support community. Smiling

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On the other hand, if people don't see a CLI forum, they're likely to think "oh, I suppose this site is not for the thing I want to ask/post", and also if you wait too long it will be a pain to look up all the CLI related threads and move them.

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I don't think a command line forum is really necessary because thats the standard, X windows is a program seperate from it and so it has it's own forums relating to it. couldn't command line just go under Misc? or maybe make a forum named "general."

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That's not true. There are LOTS of commandline utilities out there that are not installed by default. X is a separate program, but most distributions install it by default and there are GUI utilities for everything. I think if you have a forum for solving X related problems (desktop and GUI), it only makes sense to have a forum for the problems caused by the absence of X too.

Maybe it's just a matter of different interpretation of forum names. Maybe "desktop" utitilities that work in an environment without a desktop, and user interfaces that don't need a graphical environment (screen, various editors, etc etc) should go into "desktop and GUI"?

By the way, there are a few forums that don't make sense to me:

- slackware, arch: these distributions are not so similar. why one forum for both? same about gentoo and sourcemage on one side and lfs on the other.

- the distribution specific forums in general: don't the distributions already have support forums of their own?

- installation and getting started: shouldn't this be part of the distribution specific forums? There is little you can say about it in general.

Oh well, maybe different users have different ideas about what support forums should be like :-D

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I would actually like it if we had a CLI section, I am still a CLI noob, and i dont really know that many apps and stuff, please please please! Laughing out loud

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"tbuitenh" wrote:

On the other hand, if people don't see a CLI forum, they're likely to think "oh, I suppose this site is not for the thing I want to ask/post", and also if you wait too long it will be a pain to look up all the CLI related threads and move them.

Exactly.

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Good to see some discussion about this. If you don't say it, how would I know what kind of forums organization do we need. Conversation is part of my research process on that. Eye

So, it seems we do need the CLI forum while we may not need the distribution specific ones.

Frankly, the idea of distribution specific forums comes from LFDO. LQ too has distribution specific forums, but as subforums of "distributions" forum. Of course though, we don't have to be exactly like them..

However, sometimes distributions indeed do make a difference. I think there are at least four distinctive worlds of GNU/Linux in terms of distribution design philosophy and style; debian based, slackware-like, RPM based and source based. That's how I divided the forums. I thought that it would make sense.

"tbuitenh" wrote:

- slackware, arch: these distributions are not so similar. why one forum for both? same about gentoo and sourcemage on one side and lfs on the other.

Well sure Arch and slackware aren't that similar, but they still have much more in common than say Arch and debian or Arch and Mandriva. Here's why and how I see it. Alot of Arch users are former slackware users because they like the same "KISS" principle of it. Many recognize Arch as "slackware with dependancy resolution" so it is likely that slackware and arch people would kind of like to have a common forum (not to mention that some technical issues would indeed end up being very similar). Besides, just looking at Arch installer reveals the great influence of slackware style.

But I really appreciate your opinions on this and I'd like you to not hesitate to make your own suggestions and share your own thoughts on this (and the more of you do that the better). It seemed logical to me, but I'm just one guy. Let the majority of you decide. Eye

Thanks
Daniel

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When it comes to Bash and the standard GNU utility commands like tee, cat, etc., I see it as something that is cross platform. It's also sort of like software development but not quite.

If I posted my Bash question, for instance, in the Ubuntu forum, then perhaps only Ubuntu users would respond and I might miss some Bash experts out there.

If I posted it under software development, that might be about the closest match. I mean, at least I'd probably be finding the closest match of knowledgable people.

So, that's why I suggest a "Commands" or "Command-Line" forum.

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It looks like people will actually use it, so yes.

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I see arch as "a better debian". But maybe I'm the exception among many archlinux users who see it as "a better slackware". Anyway, it doesn't matter. If other sites similar to us have distro-specific forums, then people will expect us to have them too, so it makes sense to have them as long as they are actually used.

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Ok, so we can add the CLI forum and remove one of existing ones that may not be necessary yet, such might be the "installation and getting started".

Alternatively we could merge all distro specific forums into one called "distributions" (much like on LQ although without subforums) for distribution specific questions, though it could seem a little ackward to have all distribution specific question for all distributions in one forum ending up to be not so distro specific afterall, but just a general distributions forum.. Smiling

What do you think?

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I like the distro-specific forums, actually.

I think installation and getting started is a critical forum for this site, not one to be deleted.

No chance of adding an additional forum?

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"supermike" wrote:

No chance of adding an additional forum?

Here is it. :mrgreen:

I was just thinking if maybe you guys think one of existing forums isn't necessary so to remove it and not increase the number of forums (which is already quite big). Smiling

But then, if we can fill it shouldn't be a problem. Eye

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