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Haiku OS in qemu, but mouse stopped working

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Hello

I have downloaded Haiku OS (a free BeOS clone) image to try to run it in qemu and easily enough it works and I was able to boot and see a nice Haiku OS desktop. However, it was rather slow, even for simple tasks like moving and resizing windows. There was a message at launching qemu though which said that qemu accelerator wasn't activated as there was no /dev/kqemu. I asked in #qemu channel on freenode about how to activate it and they said I had to build or install kqemu, which I easily enough (thanks to it being available in Arch AUR) did.

However, now when I start qemu with Haiku OS image and boot it again (succesfuly) mouse and keyboard don't seem to be working and I am wondering what could be the problem.

Does anyone has any hints?

My plan is to play a bit with Haiku using qemu and possibly write up a nice review about it for publishing here on Nuxified.org. Smiling

Thanks in advance!

Daniel

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I eventually restarted a

I eventually restarted a computer and everything is working properly now. I guess Qemu sometimes tends to mess things up between its emulation and actual hardware or something..

It's still pretty slow and I'd welcome any tips at increasing the Qemu performance, but Haiku is pretty impressive.

I am gonna make and upload some nice screenshots. Smiling

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The qemu accelerator kernel

The qemu accelerator kernel module is closed source.

Where can I find the haikuOS image?

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You know, "closed source"

You know, "closed source" means little as much as "open source" means little. I don't deal with those terms. But if it is not Free Software then I'll uninstall it. I do wonder however why would it be proprietary software. What the heck is the point of that!?

Anyway, you can download the Haiku OS image here http://haiku-os.org/factory/index.php

It's in the "Download Nightly Build" section on the top right.

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Closed source makes clear

Closed source makes clear what it is, there also is proprietary "open" source (aka shared source and such).

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QEMU's status

From Wikipedia:

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Fabrice Bellard has stated his willingness to open-source the kqemu QEMU Accelerator module if a company steps up to sponsor it. This has so far not happened, and kqemu remains proprietary. It is free to use, but one is not allowed to distribute it to other people without an explicit authorisation. Distributors wishing to include the QEMU accelerator on CDs, ISO images or packages must contact the author to know the exact terms.

Meanwhile, a GPL licensed module purporting to perform the same task, QVM86 has appeared.

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qvm86
tbuitenh wrote:

Closed source makes clear what it is, there also is proprietary "open" source (aka shared source and such).

It's not any clearer to me than saying proprietary vs. Free Software. It is either one or the other. Some of the Shared Source licenses by Microsoft are plain and simply proprietary as they break at least one of the four freedoms, which is to me pretty much the only measure.. but if we should continue the discussion maybe we should do so elsewhere (in the lounge or Libervis.com Eye )

A_thing, I've just visited that wikipedia page. I've also noticed a link to a free alternative called qvm86, but there are no releases yet.

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I had a look at haiku. Quite

I had a look at haiku. Quite impressive, especially for a 81M image. It lacks useful apps though... (webbrowser!!!). I feel more at home in Syllable, even though it seems slightly more buggy. Haiku is single user, without even a login screen. I don't like that.

Interesting times are coming, with lots of alternative free OSes becoming useable.

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Fine, I'll say "not libre

Fine, I'll say "not libre software" next time Eye .

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There is Haiku software

Haiku should run anything BeOS can. http://www.bebits.com/

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not all free software
mbishop wrote:

Haiku should run anything BeOS can. http://www.bebits.com/

Yes, not all of it is Free Software though but there are Free Software as well so it's already a nice resource. Things like that show how much of a legacy BeOS world still has behind it and which is waiting on Haiku OS to push it forward even faster than some other from-scratch OS's that don't have so much history behind it.

There is also a proprietary version (or clone) of BeOS called Zeta, but well.. it is proprietary.

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question: how do you get

question: how do you get anything from bebits.com into haiku?

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I think both Zeta and Haiku

I think both Zeta and Haiku are important for saving BeOS: Zeta to make sure there is a useable version today, and Haiku for the future. I dare to bet once Haiku gets stable enough, Zeta will become based on Haiku instead of the old BeOS.

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haiku installer
tbuitenh wrote:

question: how do you get anything from bebits.com into haiku?

I suppose the same way as in BeOS, but that's not an answer. Eye I wonder if installing software is even supported yet in Haiku. I've searched a bit through Haiku forums, but I couldn't find anything.

Looking over available apps in Haiku OS image that I run in Qemu I have found an "Installer", but it appears to be only for installing Haiku onto a drive. Not sure if it can be used to install other software somehow..

Here is a screenshot of the installer program in Haiku: http://www.nuxified.org/haiku_os_installer_in_qemu?size=_original

Packages probably have some binaries that can manually be put in a bin folder...

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I think both Zeta and Haiku are important for saving BeOS: Zeta to make sure there is a useable version today, and Haiku for the future. I dare to bet once Haiku gets stable enough, Zeta will become based on Haiku instead of the old BeOS.

Agreed. Zeta may hold the interest floating (though for computer enthusiasts Haiku is already doing a good job), but if it stays proprietary I don't think it has as good long term chances as Haiku. Proprietary software is slowly but surely withering away.

Btw, I've uploaded another nice shot of Haiku in Qemu: http://www.nuxified.org/haiku_os_in_qemu?size=_original

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the qvm86 is available to

the qvm86 is available to download at:
http://www.dad-answers.com/qemu/qemu/

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wow, forgot to login again

wow, forgot to login again and that file seems to be broken. But it's still available at the CVS, not sure if it's working though. I'm going to try it out.

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I've patched the qemu 0.8.1

I've patched the qemu 0.8.1 and the CVS version of qvm86 a bit and it's now working. Guess I could share it Smiling

http://planet.time.net.my/TechnologyPark/semj/qvm86.tar.bz2
http://planet.time.net.my/TechnologyPark/semj/qemu-0.8.1.tar.bz2

However I'm still experiencing the same problem. The mouse and keyboard are not responding. And restarting doesn't actually solve the problem.

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I wish I knew how to set up

I wish I knew how to set up QEMU :|

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installing qemu should be easy
spyro_boy wrote:

I wish I knew how to set up QEMU :|

It should act