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Microsoft's Port 25 Blog

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It's here

http://port25.technet.com/archive/2006/03/28/8.aspx

I need to think about this. Should I go there and blog out my feelings in a rage against Microsoft? Or, would they just turn around and potentially use that as ammo against Linux?

Let me give you an example. Suppose I say something simple like, "I can do more with Linux. I can mod my system and optimize it for free, taking advantage of slower hardware, or giving it fancy features that I cannot do as easily on Windows. Windows can only take me so far without having to pay for extras, and even then there aren't enough options." However, if I posted that, then all Microsoft has to do is turn around and tell their devs, "See? This is what we need to add to Vista, you dopes! Now get cracking!"

The facts come down to this. Microsoft has tried every possible angle to defeat Linux, including extremely secretive, arrogant, thug-like, unethical, and some may say even illegal means to stop it. They've even had a similar campaign like this before where they pretend to embrace *nux, but then in the next couple of months they do something completely outrageous again. It's like Charlie Brown and Lucy come the football season and she says, "I'll hold ball for you, Charlie Brown." Sorry, but I ain't buying it.

Microsoft also *has* to be hurting right now on large contracts. Many of these are going Linux because of budget problems, especially in the governments around the world. Many country businesses are also realizing the maturity, security, richness, durability, and uptime of Linux. They also like the ability to have more choices and not be stuck with vendor lock-in. They're doing it at an amazing pace and even rejecting the interoperability FUD that Microsoft is spewing out, where Microsoft says that using Windows means guaranteeing that its products will work together. (Oh yeah, like it took several years after the PowerPoint and FrontPage product acquisitions to get integrated in with the rest of the MS Office suite as far as OLE, COM, and VBA.)

By Microsoft extending an olive branch now, it can only be for devious reasons. This dope Bill Hilf has been duped by Microsoft into thinking he can actually get somewhere here. However, like one blogger said, he's merely a meat shield. Instead, I think Microsoft will use the info gathered from this blog to eventually turn around and produce more Linux FUD and improve Vista (now that it's gone back to the blackboard).

The best thing we can do for *nux, and to fight Microsoft, is to *not* participate on this blog. They do not need the ammo.

In fact, if you were to analyze the net traffic from this site, I would reason to bet that more people at microsoft.com, especially the top brass and the product managers of the Vista teams, are the top visitors.

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Want to stick it to Microsoft and get more people to switch to GNU/Linux? I think there needs to be a transition platform on the Windows front before more people will consider it. Someone should make a complete Explorer and window-treatment replacement for Windows XP codenamed Schroeder. Schroeder was the only one who could one-up Lucy. (And the metaphor is that Lucy with the fake football hold is like Microsoft with Port 25.) Schroeder should permit a complete mod of XP in brilliant graphical ways, and provide an easy API for anyone to customize it more in a kind of CSS-like formatting, as if customizing a web page. It should also provide GNOME and KDE themes so that you could provide a ramp to eventually move those users off XP and onto GNU/Linux. When XP loads, the key in the registry that launches Explorer could be switched to launch Schroeder. And the XP themes could be modded with Schroeder themes and Schroeder API.

Once business users see what a Linux desktop sort of "feels" like, and use OpenOffice instead of MS Office, then perhaps moving them to GNU/Linux could be an easier transition.

And for power users on XP, they may think Schroeder is so cool that they may start to visit SourceForge, Freshmeat, and other FLOSS sites to get more things to add on to Schroeder. Eventually they may actually see the light and want to just convert, wholesale, to Linux.

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Interesting. Very interesting actually.

"supermike" wrote:

The facts come down to this. Microsoft has tried every possible angle to defeat Linux, including extremely secretive, arrogant, thug-like, unethical, and some may say even illegal means to stop it.

And it failed. It will always fail. Even if they manage to make GNU/Linux and Free Software illegal in some way they'd fail because we wont submit to the unethical law, because the good deal of the GNU/Linux crowd actually thinks with their own heads (which is another reason why MS's FUD tactics don't work and why this blog is being greeted with much criticism). I think MS is gonna learn these things the hard way, because apparently it is just not capable of taking it any other way.

I don't trust Microsoft and it would be very very hard for them to earn my trust "back". They'd have to die and get born again for that to happen and I think alot of other people think the same.

Just looking at the majority of comments at that blog entry reveals just how aware the FLOSS world is of what MS is. Despite what some smarta**es say about them, many of the anti-MS comments on that blog true to the heart and have a point. Those who say this is a step in the right direction while at the same time criticizing the negative comments as some kind of "spam" just show that they've been caught. They already trust MS too much.

Also, what an irony, MS opens a blog for supposedly open discussion and then more than few of these comments ask for moderation in order to stop these negative comments. What is this? Certain types from the actual FLOSS community asks for its own censorship in order to defend this latest MS's "deed"?

I wont participate on that blog. Microsoft can do whatever they want with it. I might check on just to see what's happening, but the thing is recieveing enough rejection as it is. I don't need to jump on any bandwagon and indeed, by doing so I might actually help them more than not.

As for telling MS why GNU/Linux is better giving them ideas for Vista, I don't care. I mean OK, why not? We're all for sharing information right? I just don't think MS will listen to us anyway. Even if they do implement these features, they'll still be a dangerous monopoly, and I care more about my freedom than their petty features.

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"supermike" wrote:

Want to stick it to Microsoft and get more people to switch to GNU/Linux? I think there needs to be a transition platform on the Windows front before more people will consider it. Someone should make a complete Explorer and window-treatment replacement for Windows XP codenamed Schroeder. Schroeder was the only one who could one-up Lucy. (And the metaphor is that Lucy with the fake football hold is like Microsoft with Port 25.) Schroeder should permit a complete mod of XP in brilliant graphical ways, and provide an easy API for anyone to customize it more in a kind of CSS-like formatting, as if customizing a web page. It should also provide GNOME and KDE themes so that you could provide a ramp to eventually move those users off XP and onto GNU/Linux. When XP loads, the key in the registry that launches Explorer could be switched to launch Schroeder. And the XP themes could be modded with Schroeder themes and Schroeder API.

Once business users see what a Linux desktop sort of "feels" like, and use OpenOffice instead of MS Office, then perhaps moving them to GNU/Linux could be an easier transition.

And for power users on XP, they may think Schroeder is so cool that they may start to visit SourceForge, Freshmeat, and other FLOSS sites to get more things to add on to Schroeder. Eventually they may actually see the light and want to just convert, wholesale, to Linux.

What's the normal user's incentive for switching to GNU/Linux then?

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Note that it appears my comment is ringing a bell on lxer.com, although after posting my note, they made their own version:

http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/58360/index.html

P.S. Note that many seem to not understand the L in FLOSS and call it FOSS. There's a reason why L is in there. It stands for Libre, and is different than simply saying "Free".

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Your note has been made the big story of the day yesterday on LXer.com. They then change it to the articl