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Migrating CMS's

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Hey all,

I'm looking into possible solutions that may exist for migrating from one CMS to another. More specifically, I'm looking to move from Xoops to almost anything else but I don't want to lose the DB in the process.

The reasons why I want to mkae this move are both personal and technical. But I haven't seen any CMS with an inport script; it looks like we may end up having to make one. but, if someone knows of such a beast, it would be appreaciated if you'd share & it would save me a lot of time :-)

Thanks!

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I have heard that Joomla community is working on something like that, a converter from XOOPS to Joomla. However I couldn't find the original thread where they talked about it.

I was however able to digg at least something possibly useful out. It seems boardjive.com converted from XOOPS to Joomla and the guy who owns the site posted about it.

Also, there is a SMF bridge for XOOPS so that SMF (Simple Machines Forum) can be used with XOOPS in case you want to just switch the forums (here's an original discussion on xoops.org and here's a demo). Smiling

If you happen to be interested in Drupal, this might help.

Sorry I couldn't offer more. I don't know that much about other CMS's and I've used only drupal and xoops on live sites so far (and well, phpbb).

I thought about moving libervis.com (which runs on xoops) to Joomla myself, but since I just done a new design we really liked and XOOPS was actually performing pretty good I quit on it..

Good luck Smiling

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There's really got to be a standard for this.

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"a thing" wrote:

There's really got to be a standard for this.

What do you mean? A standard for what??

thanks for all the links as well! Awesome! I'm a bit concerned about Joomla though, as I know Mambo had some serious limitations WRT scaling to large amounts of users.

I'd love to use Drupal, but the forum modules/nodes are just terrible.

I want to leave Xoops mainly due to the development environment, how issues are being handled, and the total abandonment of the entire 2.2.x series with no real explanation except vague claims....it's just frustrating.

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"a thing" wrote:

There's really got to be a standard for this.

I actually had an idea on that note which I posted on digitalpoint

However, it is hard to do something like this because people have different ideas and needs when it comes to content management systems and different ideas are implemented in different ways.

I would love it if it would be possible to at least standardize some similar categories of CMS's to enable crossing between them more easily..

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Well, to some extent there is some standardization in some areas. Also many CMS's trace their lineage back to one of the *Nukes and share similar DB structures.

But, as you said, each one was forked pretty much from a previous effort, or is a total rewrite from scratch so of course there will be just enough incompatibility to be a PITA. If everything was set to follow a set standard, I doubt we'd have so many PHP/MySQL CMS's available.

BTW, anyone know of a good CMS that doesn't reply on PHP/MySQL. Maybe Postgres, or a different scripting language (Ruby, Perl, ?)? Not for this project in particular, but for a new one or future use? One of our admin team from DebCentral is doing some really in-depth research on the state of LAMP CMS's in hopes of writing an in depth article sometime in the future.

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"dotmil" wrote:

What do you mean? A standard for what??

I suppose a standard for CMS interoperability of some sort that would allow switching between CMS's easier.

"dotmil" wrote:

I'd love to use Drupal, but the forum modules/nodes are just terrible.

I think I've seen some developments on phpbb integration with drupal. Searching drupal site for phpbb may give you some useful results. Same goes for SMF.

"dotmil" wrote:

I want to leave Xoops mainly due to the development environment, how issues are being handled, and the total abandonment of the entire 2.2.x series with no real explanation except vague claims....it's just frustrating.

I must admit I haven't closely followed xoops forums lately. I didn't know they're abandoning 2.2.x series. Didn't they just release the 2.2.4 patch? I applied it the other day..

Although, I know that xoops community wasn't in a very healthy state through the last half of last year. There were some turmoils and their first release of 2.2 didn't pass very well. Also, the biggest downtime of xoops.org site was caused by a former xoops member out of sheer bitterness at xoops.org lead.. ugly story. :\

I kept with it though since XOOPS still managed to work for my site although I was starting to consider things like Joomla.

I'm not too familiar with its scalability problems however.

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Well, it appears the current landscape of CMS's is pretty bland. Either it's a carbon copy PHP/MySQL app or is in very early development...sigh

Yes, Xoops is still releasing updates for the 2.2.x series for now. however, the new 2.3.x series won't offer an upgrade path for 2.2.x users. Apparently that same bitterness you mentioned is the cause of the issues with 2.2.x; it was mainly written by the bitter member if the team IIRC. They were also de-listed from opensourcecms.com (a major CMS demo/review site) since they refuse to offer a full version of 2.2.4; only patches from here on out. It's quite sad really since I think the 2.2.x series blows away the 2.0.x series. The code needs some cleanup, but nothing too major. I'm planning on looking over the SQL soon to see if I can spot the "scalability issues" they keep mentioning but refuse to give specifics on....grrrrr Evil or Very Mad

For now we're using Xoops on DebCentral, however we're also working on a "DC 3.0" with a redesigned layout and some customized modules. A few SQL/PHP portions may also be rewritten due to poor performance and slow execution times.

Thats the beauty of GPL code; if you don't like what you see you can always change/fix it yourself :-)

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That's really sad to hear. It seems that I'll be forced to action in regard to Libervis.com as well cause if I can't upgrade from 2.2.4 that I'm using now and it isn't supported anymore, where do I go? I can't stay on the same version forever..

Either we're gonna switch to something else or find a way to move to new XOOPS 2.4 although after hearing all this I'm not very hot for XOOPS anymore. Joomla community seems much more promising.

"dotmil" wrote:

Thats the beauty of GPL code; if you don't like what you see you can always change/fix it yourself Smile

Yeah, indeed. I don't know that much about PHP and SQL though to be able to hack it off myself..so I guess it's either stay or move for me. Smiling

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