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Nuxified.com vs. Nuxified.org and our content

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A way to get people to come to a certain website is to provide them with something they want, need or just enjoy having. When it comes to Free Software related sites it is usually stuff like useful tutorials and articles, useful service of some kind and often a good community.

What Nuxified.org should become to be appealing unfortunately doesn't stop at just providing a forum software people can use to help each other. That's easy and that's already done by so many. It is creating an appealing environment that will best support the birth and life of a community. There are many elements that form this environment, from terms of use (AKA site rules) to the moderation style to the helpfulness of forum posts..

Another thing that greatly adds up to the whole appeal is useful articles related to the subject around which the community is being gathered around.

My idea is to have these articles published on behalf of Nuxified.org community here, and I wanted to ask you for opinions on how are we gonna be doing that.

As some of you know, there is a sister site at Nuxified.com that is built for people to publish their "user stories" about their migration to GNU/Linux and between GNU/Linux distros as well as stories about the reasons they already using and generally their overall 'nux experience.

That offers us one option for Nuxified.org articles. We could use the present system at Nuxified.com to publish them there which wouldn't require any modifications on Nuxified.org short of adding a content development forum. Articles would be published on Nuxified.com and linked from there to the corresponding discussion thread on Nuxified.org or something like that..

Another option is to install a CMS on Nuxified.org specifically for publishing articles. That would be the most "complicated" option.

The third option would be to publish our articles as simple threads and have its replies as comments. That's the most simplistic option, but it would probably work. It's not the most sofisticated though. Smiling

All that said, we'd need some kind of a structure for writing articles. One way, sure, is to just have anyone that wants to submit them or just write them down in a thread, which is great. But it might be beneficial if anyone would be interested to form a team of people who'd want to work on bringing new articles in a more timely manner and more organized in time than we'd expect from ordinary user submissions.

What do you think of all this?

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I like the idea of a tech support site for free software. I also like the people that are coming here -- we know to respect one another's opinion and use tact. (And I hope to get better at that too.) So, I'm between being a nuxified lounger, where I can just come home from a long day at work and dump what's on my mind in relation to software development, software ideas, Linux news, or what have you. (Using the lounge for that, of course.) And I hope eventually I can come here to either answer something quickly that I've already done, or drop one of my own tough questions here for support. Sometimes using groups.google.com to interact on Usenet is not as effective -- the community there is unmoderated in many groups and you can get beat up by trolls or just flat-out mean people. Like they say, mean people suck.

Although I didn't necessarily understand the libervis and nuxified terms at first, it's growing on me and I guess it's going to stick. It's like, what did people think when they visited the early Google back in the day? Did they scratch their head and say, "What's a Google?" But we all get it now.

Another thing I like is the whole phpBB interface. I was stuck on it with Ubuntu Forums. Now I'm stuck on it here.

BTW, I wanted to make mention of another phpBB forum site I discovered tonight for PHP and MySQL/PostgreSQL programming. It's called:

http://forums.devnetwork.net/

Perhaps you could hook up this group off this site for those who want to ask tougher LAMP/LAPP (PHP/MySQL/PostgreSQL) development questions.

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There will be a web directory of free software support services. That project seems to be in the fridge for the moment, but it will be built and that link will find a place in it.

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"supermike" wrote:

...Sometimes using groups.google.com to interact on Usenet is not as effective -- the community there is unmoderated in many groups and you can get beat up by trolls or just flat-out mean people. Like they say, mean people suck.

Afterall the fastest way to get an answer on such lines of communiction (including newsnets especially) is to state something false and wait for a correction. :smiling:

Back to topic, I think using Nuxified.com for this would be most applicable. It would require minimum work, gives readers some more content, requires less advertising to link to the new cms to regulate these articles and so forth. As for using the forums to post articles, I think Nuxified.com is again more suited for such a thing. Afterall this is a forums module, not an article/story management system. Use the right tool for the right job.

Cheers.

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"supermike" wrote:

BTW, I wanted to make mention of another phpBB forum site I discovered tonight for PHP and MySQL/PostgreSQL programming. It's called:

http://forums.devnetwork.net/

Perhaps you could hook up this group off this site for those who want to ask tougher LAMP/LAPP (PHP/MySQL/PostgreSQL) development questions.

We can certainly link them to it in forum threads asking about those things if noone else here doesn't seem to know the answer (which is gonna be less and less unlikely as we grow).

That said, it can be in a web directory as tbuitenh said.

"tbuitenh" wrote:

That project seems to be in the fridge for the moment, but it will be built and that link will find a place in it.

You're right. Working on three sites and trying to make them out and see how to bring them up the best way is already enough for me. I doubt directory would bring much financial potential sooner than the nuxified sites themselves will have enough traffic for that to become more viable (sponsors and such). So, the directory can be an add-on for later. Besides, there are some related ideas from DebCentral guys that are yet to be reviewed to see where does the directory fit in. The ideas are something about a social bookmarking site around Free Software on top of which a directory may be made, all done in cooperation between libervis network and debcentral friends.

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Back to topic, I think using Nuxified.com for this would be most applicable. It would require minimum work, gives readers some more content, requires less advertising to link to the new cms to regulate these articles and so forth. As for using the forums to post articles, I think Nuxified.com is again more suited for such a thing. Afterall this is a forums module, not an article/story management system. Use the right tool for the right job.

Yes, true.. there are a few shortcomings just to name them. Publishing articles to Nuxified.com would primarily bring traffic to that site instead here which may mean less people may register here. To remedy this we should have some way of connecting those articles directly to this site, something they can't miss. The idea is that when they read an article, that they become aware of both sites and about these forums especially.

On the other hand, Nuxified.com too needs traffic and the more it has, the more Nuxified.org would have too, since both are linked (the forums link on Nuxified.com, for example, leads here).

What do others think?

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One could use an aggregator of some sort to get the articles form .com to be put on the frontpage of .org ?

I like Pascal I think the use of .com would be the best use of what we have for our aims.

dylunio

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"dylunio" wrote:

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I like Pascal I think the use of ...

I like you too. :kiss:

Got to love spellos. :bigsmile:

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"klepas" wrote:
"dylunio" wrote:

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I like Pascal I think the use of ...

I like you too. :kiss:

Got to love spellos. :bigsmile:

Haha! Laughing out loud

more of a punctuation thingy

"I, like Pascal..."

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"dylunio" wrote:
"klepas" wrote:
"dylunio" wrote:

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I like Pascal I think the use of ...

I like you too. :kiss:

Got to love spellos. :bigsmile:

Haha! Laughing out loud

more of a punctuation thingy

"I, like Pascal..."

:bigsmile:

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"dylunio" wrote:

One could use an aggregator of some sort to get the articles form .com to be put on the frontpage of .org ?

Yes, definitely.

I suppose then we're gonna put our nuxified.org articles on nuxified.com and keep the .org for forums only and effectively share traffic among both. Smiling

I just have to revise Nuxified.com a bit (hopefully there's also going to be an improved new major version of Drupal available soon) and make a special section for .org content which may be tutorials, reviews and such other useful articles.

Thanks for your opinion guys. And yeah, I like you guys too. :mrgreen: Wink

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You know.. there's another possibility that I think is good and has some considerable advantages, especially if we're sticking with the 'ol phpbb. Smiling

Look at this for example: http://www.nuxified.org/forums/portal.php?article=3

Yes, our portal has a built in sort of article system. Whenever you click on "read full" link in latest topics column on the portal homepage you get a real article view where the actual forum thread is shown as comments to the story.

This is great because with our content we want to attract people to Nuxified Forums and what better way could there be than to have the article commented exactly through these forums! Laughing out loud

I think this may be the best option of all that we have. This would basically mean that we'd have a special articles forum where all articles written and submit would be published and would normally appear as new topics on homepage though we can mark them as "article" for the distinction. Then when submitting an article to news sites we give them the full view link of our portal system (ezportal actually).

What do you think? Same as with the Nuxified.com option it is something we've already have in place, only it is right here as part of this site, which is a great advantage.

Cheers
Daniel

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Sounds good Smiling

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