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this would be great. period.
I don't know how feasible/possible it is as different technologies/products are being used...

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That's a great idea! The thought of having synced accounts across Nuxified.com and Nuxified.org crossed my mind, but sure if it would be fully network wide (including libervis.com and even libervis blogs) it would be great.

However, the feasibility is highly doubtful at this point. It would probably require modifications to databases on all sites involved and could cause various problems on those sites. Libervis uses XOOPS, Nuxified.com uses drupal and Nuxified.org uses phpbb.

I'm also not a coder actually so if something like this or similar is ever to be attempted it should be with the help of real coder.

Maybe if all three databases use the same username ID and password standard it may be possible to build a script that would act as sort of a tunnel between all sites interfacing with each site's database in its own way, but that would probably be pretty tricky and with possibly serious security issues..

If anyone has any ideas though, please post forward. Maybe at some point this could be viable.

Btw, drupal already has this system in place, but only for drupal sites. Actually, with this enabled if you have an account on any drupal site you can use its ID on any other drupal site.. really cool. Smiling

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"libervisco" wrote:

However, the feasibility is highly doubtful at this point. It would probably require modifications to databases on all sites involved and could cause various problems on those sites. Libervis uses XOOPS, Nuxified.com uses drupal and Nuxified.org uses phpbb.

Just so you all know, phpbb seems to work better for me than XOOPS and drupal. I couldn't function with those and so I'm tending to hang out only here at nuxified.org. With the other two, I was having trouble getting my browser to refresh fast enough and also the rich HTML editor was fried on Ubuntu and didn't seem to work properly for me. Why not just switch everything to phpbb and be done with it?

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Libervis.com uses other XOOPS features, not just the forums.

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supermike: By rich HTML editor you mean the WYSIWYG editor? If yes then yeah those are generally much slower since they're very javascript intensive, but you don't have to use that as you can select a different editor when posting, the default one would do the job.

Aside from that, as a thing said, we use alot of other XOOPS features there, not just forums and we really do need those features too.

As for Nuxified.com, it's not a forum site so it can't be switched to phpbb of course. I think that for whatever purpose Nuxified.com will end up serving (probably what it is now, only more streamlined and clean) drupal is I believe most appropriate.

So it's really rather hard to just switch all sites to the same thing as they are different and with different requirements and purposes, even if in the same network for the same ultimate goal of fostering free culture on the web. Smiling

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Ah, okay.

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Are the sites physically on the same machine ? And do they all use php ? If that is the case, it shouldn't be too difficult to hook up one unified auth system...
The main question is - who can do it ? libervis cannot, I am pretty busy with that package manager right now....

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"free-zombie" wrote:

Are the sites physically on the same machine ? And do they all use php ?

Not really. They're all hosted by the same hosting firm currently, but not always on the same server. Even if sometimes two sites end up on the same server it can't be guaranteed to have all of them on the same one all the time.

However, it might be possible to have that unified system anyway, if all servers are up then it wouldn't matter if the system is on one server or the other for it to interface with all of them.

Though yeah, if one server drops for a bit that could be a problem.. in that case the auth system should be able to detect this and just cease logging you in to the site where the server is currently down, so it wouldn't affect logging in to other sites.

Also, if the server where the unified auth system is fails then the normal login system of a given site should be used instead, as backup.

Now, registrations are a bit trickier... maybe the auth system could have its own members database to which names are registered the first so if for example nuxified.com fails while someone is registering for libervis network the auth system would register it to itself, wait until the nuxified.com server is up and then insert it there too.

So, in my mind it might theoretically work, but I imagine it would need alot of tricky coding. Whoever would want to do it would have to know hell of a lot of PHP and SQL..

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if they were on the same machine, on a dedicated or virtual server of some sort, it would be relatively easy because they could all access the same code for the auth.

Otherwise it's probably best to have a copy of the auth db/system on every site, with some wicked sync system...

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