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Ok, in the dreamstorming thread there were some great suggestions among which is the idea for a solutions page.

Stojic said:

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There is one thing that I would love to see on a support forum - it is a "Solutions page" where users can put solutions to problems that were discussed in forums, found somewhere on the net or produced during setting your own machine up and solving problems that arise. It could be divided into subsections and formatted in a Q&A style.

Users could put solutions here even if noone asks for them on forums, and solutions found to be working during forum discussions would be put there also. Solutions found during exhaustive googling (when you have some weird problem) could also be added here for future reference.

Eventually, this would become a sort of database with solutions, and every solution would have additional information, such as how many users (percentage) found this solution working and similar.

Solutions database would, off course, be fully searchable.

I presume wiki would be great to implement something like this.

and Pascal added:

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How about a solutions blog? We can post the best and most useful solutions found in a weekly blog entry, once things are underway. Smiling

A WP blog is easy to set up, or we could use one of the Libervis network blogs. What do you guys reckon?

What they said there is pretty much the basis of what I am asking in this thread. What do you think of those ideas for ways of implementing this (which I will do either way)?

If it is to be a wiki, blog or anything like that which isn't really natively possible in phpbbb (except maybe with a dirty hack) there is a possibility of adding it to nuxified.com, a close sister site of this one where you might have your account anyway (or could just ask me to open one for you there with same login info) so I think wont be that much of a problem. Nuxified.com runs drupal and has necessary modules for anything we'd want here, be it a blog, wiki or a links page. Smiling Nuxified.com is primarily a user experience stories site, but this closely relates, at least to improve that experience with solutions. Smiling

What do you reckon? (as our friends in Australia would say Eye )

Cheers
Daniel

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Heh.. I've just got at least two more ideas for ways of doing this.

1). A solutions page could just be a soulutions thread in a misc forum, stickified, but specially fed into the block on the portal page. This way all members would be able to add to it (links to solutions or solution quotes) and latest additions would appear on homepage.

2). This isn't a new idea actually, but just an extension of what I said already. If it is going to be on nuxified.com, as a blog for example, then its RSS can again be fed into a block on portal homepage.

So in any case the idea is to have it accessible from the homepage (portal page that is).

What do you think? (and don't forget the above post). Smiling

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Re: solutions page

Good idea, saves screwing around with unpromising code.
Just link it from here.

I will sign up for an account tonight, as i have never explored that far into the libervis network Wink

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Re: solutions page
"AndrewB" wrote:

Good idea, saves screwing around with unpromising code.
Just link it from here.

I will sign up for an account tonight, as i have never explored that far into the libervis network Wink

Thanks. I haven't made a definite decision yet though, which is why I opened this thread. Feedback is most appreciated.

Basically, all possible ways of implementing this come down to two things. One would be completely integrated with nuxified forums here (there are some MODs that can be used), but has the disadvantage of having to hack the original phpbb code (as with all MODs). The other is to make it part of Nuxified.com where ready made maintainable modules exist to be plugged into existing drupal system, but with a disadvantage of you having to sign up on nuxified.com, a separate account to use it.

So, what do you think is better?

Either of these options is good. The second option may be easier for me to do and maintain with less potential problems, but the first one may be what you'd like better, or not.. awaiting your say.

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Personally I prefer a blog that could just be aggregated into the portal.php page. :smiling:

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I think a wiki would be best at providing the most detailed and accurate solutions.

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Eh, a blog or a wiki... so you both think it's better on a separate site, that is, nuxified.com?

As for if it's gonna be a wiki or a blog.. I thought more of a blog because it is chronologic (although that isn't necessarily a big benefit) and seems more orderly than a wiki while still being searchable. We could just add new entries to it as new solutions are found on forums.

Wiki is a bit different in that sense. It can be as orderly or as chaotic as anyone who edits it (although the first editor can put some standards), but it still can't be allowed for anyone to edit it (no anonymouse at the least) because of potential spam and irrelevant content..

So what do others think?

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Here's another possible option. It seems that the docuwiki can be integrated with phpbb to share same users (according to this).

It is possible to create a group that would be allowed to edit wiki pages in case that is needed to prevent bad entries or anything of the sort.

DocuWiki always seemed like a pretty good wiki software so it might be nice.

What do you think?

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Actually there's another good option which I am already trying to implement. On nuxified.com there can be a solutions page to which even guests can submit for approval, so there would not even be a need for anyone to register there, while we wouldn't have spam problems because it is first approved before publishing (usually very soon).

I've got some problems at the moment with the drupal module that is to be used with it, but that should be resolved soon. In the worst case there are alternatives since our requirement is infact pretty simple..

Anyway, I'll keep you posted on the progress.

Thanks
Daniel

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My personal idea would be to have a general blog which would feature primarily content based on cool things discussed on this site but could also incorporate public requests to the editor. Yep, an editor. I think this would be really cool to have a nice looking blog (mainly because of the chronological layout of the entries and because of the ease of use by visitors, and least of all aggregation).

A editor, or perhaps a small group of editors could manage the site, write well informed, researched and useful entries reflecting both content here and on the Libervis network as a whole. It could also serve as a sort of node where Libervis network information, really relevant global news and such could be posted as well. I think this could be really good, if we put effort into it. Items would need to researched thoroughly and then written and reviewed by other members of the editor group first to ensure it's a quality piece of work.

It could, or rather I imagine, would, really attract readers as well.

What do you guys think about this sort of thing? Is it worth it? Should this perhaps be something separate of the Libervis network (I would be happy and quite interested in doing this anyway - so anyone else interested, say hello)?

Cheers.

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By that Klepas, you mean a sort of, blog owned by the website. Like a solutions blog?

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Pascal, that seems like a pretty nice idea actually, a general libervis network blog.

However, this still leaves solutions blog in the cold because if it would be part of that general blog the solutions would be mixed with other kinds of content eluding users wanting to find some solutions, except of course if we put solutions in a separate category and giving a direct link to that category for those who want to go straight to solutions. Smiling

Well, it is doable, but also requires alot of work by more than one person if we are to keep it really active. It can also be part of the libervis blog network since there's a ready made system there just waiting for more blogs. A modified special theme for it could be uploaded and permissions set up to accept multiple editors..

Actually, the solutions blog can be there in just about a minute... Smiling

Discuss people, what are we gonna do? There's a few good options and ideas, and we just need more of your opinions. Smiling

Cheers
Daniel

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I actually think the blog is a good idea, or we could do a wiki?

Anything along those lines has my vote(s) Sticking out tongue

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I'd personally reason to stay away from a wiki in this case. I think beginning another wiki project which has to be organised and structured first (and this is made harder when we have several people working on it) isn't such a good solution. A blog with a chronological display order along good aggregation, easy integration with the libervis blogs and so forth would be best. If we really wanted to create a concise wiki featuring solutions and tips material then I'd rather recommend to add to an existing one, such as the respective distro wikis and the LinuxQuestions.org wiki, because they are far larger.

But hey, a blog might not be the best thing either. :smiling:

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Hmmm...
OK,

How about a section of the site, where articles and such are first submitted to the mods, or the admin, and then checked over, then published on the site?

So kind of solutions, but we make sure it doesnt get abused.

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I tend to like the blog idea and I can see why a wiki might not be the best way. If more of us really want it we can open a special thread to discuss how are we gonna do it and see what comes out.

Now, if solutions aren't to be necessarily part of that blog, they can easily be part of nuxified.com in much the same sense which onlinebacon suggests:

"onlinebacon" wrote:

How about a section of the site, where articles and such are first submitted to the mods, or the admin, and then checked over, then published on the site?

That's something that can easily be done on nuxified.com to serve visitors and users of both nuxified sites. Smiling In this case we're talking about solutions that would be submit when someone asks a question on forums and gets an answer that may be useful to alot of people. This way we gather a good deal of these solutions in one nice section where every of these entries also contains a link to the original thread where this solution was asked for and presented by anyone.

I hope I'll get the module I wanted to use for it on nuxified.com working properly today so I can actually show it to you. However, it would look much like this: http://www.nuxified.com/taxonomy_menu/4

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I am however not fond of a lot of other content on that same visible page. For example if we were to display the content on a nuxified page there would be blocks in the side bar/menus and so forth, hence again why I like a blog devoted to this. :smiling:

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"libervisco" wrote:

I tend to like the blog idea and I can see why a wiki might not be the best way. If more of us really want it we can open a special thread to discuss how are we gonna do it and see what comes out.

Now, if solutions aren't to be necessarily part of that blog, they can easily be part of nuxified.com in much the same sense which onlinebacon suggests:

"onlinebacon" wrote:

How about a section of the site, where articles and such are first submitted to the mods, or the admin, and then checked over, then published on the site?

That's something that can easily be done on nuxified.com to serve visitors and users of both nuxified sites. Smiling In this case we're talking about solutions that would be submit when someone asks a question on forums and gets an answer that may be useful to alot of people. This way we gather a good deal of these solutions in one nice section where every of these entries also contains a link to the original thread where this solution was asked for and presented by anyone.

I hope I'll get the module I wanted to use for it on nuxified.com working properly today so I can actually show it to you. However, it would look much like this: http://www.nuxified.com/taxonomy_menu/4

Thanks

Yep, that is exactly what i was talking about and i think it is perfect. We could add guides, mini-reviews and solutions.

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Maybe for the blog idea, something like Planet Planet would be good. Lots of other projects have planet.projectname.tld where the members contribute their writings into one aggregator website. See Planet Debian for a good example.

Of course, that also means each member would have to have an indiviual blog hosted somewhere.

I'd be willing to lend some webhosting for any project that would or could use it. As part of DebCentral we'd really like to begin offering free or very low cost hosting and such for Free/Open Source projects anyway, so maybe this would be a good one to start off with.

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Using planet isn't a bad idea either..

But anyway, since we're apparently not sure anymore if solutions page is to be part of a general blog, or a separate blog or just a page like that one on nuxified and there's quite a few different ideas let the implementation be on hold for now until there are more members to post their own opinions. Then we can make a poll and choose what everyone will like better.

It is not an absolutely crucial feature so I think we don't need to hurry. Smiling

That gives me a green light to make an announcement (if necessary) and well.. finally submit this subTango theme to phpbb.com Laughing out loud

Let's focus on what's most important here: more activity on nuxified.org forums, more topics and posts. So, if you have any Free OS/Software itch to scratch, nuxified forums and this at the moment only small community awaits your question. Smiling

I have a few things to post about too.....

Cheers
Daniel

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While there were some cool ideas above I finally opted for something that may, at least for now, be the most elegant way to implement a "solutions" functionality.

Instead of having solutions posted and described in a blog, wikis, special pages or whatnot we can simply post them in special stickied forum threads. Now, that alone may not make it so special, but there is a catch. Every forum thread has its own RSS feed (yes every!) and now the feed of this special thread can be plugged directly into a block on the portal homepage.

This means that whenever a new solution is posted in that particular thread, its title will appear in a block on homepage. Isn't that neat? Smiling

You can see such a block on homepage right now. It is now called "Nuxified Tips" and displays entries from the tips collection thread started by a_thing. Now, tips and solutions kinda sound like the same or very similar thing, right? Smiling So that's basically it. We can put those solutions to common problems in this tips thread and it'll appear in a block on homepage. It's a nice resource and it has the attention it deserves.

Cheers
Daniel

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