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Internet Universe in 3D

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When I was trying out Alien Arena 2007 with all its impressive graphical effects yesterday a weird idea came to my mind about a "game", that is, a program which would be like a 3D client to the internet as a whole through which you could walk or fly through in various forms. This is not like second life or any other existing virtual world. This is different. It would be just an impressive 3D front end to the internet, its protocols and traffic that goes through them and also its content.

For example, when you enter this 3D world you may find yourself in a rather blank room with one door. The room you are in is actually a representation of localhost, where you are right now. Once you pass through the doors you connect to something other than localhost. As you are connecting to that there is an impressive effect of traveling through the universe of billions of web sites until you reach the one whose coordinates (IP address or domain name) you entered.

OR, instead of a room it could be done this way. We could have localhost be our little ship, a small netpod if you will. Because in essence when you connect your computer to the internet you don't really exit it, rather you connect it with the other computer on the internet - in our world this would mean moving our netpod to that other place on the netverse.

So, you have a console in front of you where you say something like "www.nuxified.org" and then when you press an "engage" button you see your netpod accelerating through countless of stars until it finally finds and zooms in on the one which looks like a shining cube presenting the content/design of Nuxified.org's homepage. If you want to browse it you have to beam onboard the cube in a room which has a big wall displaying homepage. You point to a link on the wall (say forums) and a portal opens leading you to the "forums" room. And so on Smiling

So a site is a cube, which from afar looks like a star while inside of it there are as many rooms as the site has pages. When you want to leave a site you beam back to your netpod and enter the new coordinates (domain name or IP) and move along there. Laughing out loud

However we don't have only www sites on the internet universe. We have IRC, email, newsgroups etc.. Email should be simple, you can either read it on the screen of your netpod or you can actually warp to the mail server star/cube and go in and read it on one of those big walls Laughing out loud

IRC server can also be a cube, but when you enter there you have to say which "room" to go in, again opening a portal through which to enter it. In there there are many avatars (not necessarily like in second life, they could be smaller smileys or just colorful "light" avatars) talking with each other. As they type a message it pops up above them or on your screen/HUD...

Anyway, this would be quite a "game". Sometimes the things that impress me about current 3D games is not just the actual action that goes on in there but the exploring of the map and all its contents. For example it is common in current 3D games for you to find yourself in a space ship (you move towards a big window or even a force field and see an asteroid field, or to be on a hovering building in the clouds... So I thought it would be nice to have a representation of the internet as is, but in this exciting yet relaxing 3D form where you can actually look at the internet and relax from the comfort of your netpod.

Say a netpod could just travel through the netverse randomly letting you watch all the stars go by knowing that they are each a web site with their own world in it. And at any time you can just pick one and order the netpod to take you there - hence stumbling on a new web site (talk about stumpleupon in 3D!) Laughing out loud

Oh and you could even see other netpods warping by you? Who would they be? Well.. as you go near a star it has its visitors, those netpods would represent people going to and from it. Also as you pass near a router it could be represented as a portal, a wormhole, and you can see other netpods passing in and out of it.. Laughing out loud

What do you people think? I know this is full of imagination and it's quite far off, but it's an idea.. who knows maybe someone's working on something similar. Smiling

Edit: When I think of it, all of the above could be only a start. This world would eventually evolve to be the universal client to all other internet 3D worlds. Say when you warp with your netpod to s SecondLife star and enter there, instead of the usual rooms you would find yourself in the second life world. Same with other existing and future 3D worlds.

Cheers!

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I don't think this idea is

I don't think this idea is new (cf Matrix, Nirvana, IBM project to create 3D internet, some project to interconnect all MMO universes, etc), but it certainly is interesting.
It would be especially great once virtual reality equipment becomes available to the masses. Smiling

I don't know enough about how websites get displayed and so on to create such a game, but if you can make a program displaying all routers through which one goes to get a webpage (actually the webpages is sent to you as far as I know, but that doesn't matter), creating a 3D frontend to it seems doable (don't know how to do that too, but seems easier to me with the available libraries).
No need for fancy graphics at first. ^^

bit offtopic: But before having a 3D internet, here are a few things I would like to see become more generalized in 3D games:
-Usable ingame screens (ex: Doom 3)
-Ingame internet (ex: Second Life) (not usable in all games, but could make some "real-world games" more interesting)
-Real body, i.e when you look down, you see your feet (ex: Halo 3)

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Indeed, how cool would it

Indeed, how cool would it be to have an OpenArena or Nexuiz mod where instead of running around shooting each other you walk around and interact in some other way, including having big displays that display web pages etc.. like ingame browsers..

Well, Taco just linked me to something interesting: Croquet. Here is a video. Smiling

Quite awesome. Smiling

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The method of surfing the

The method of surfing the web you describe seems quite slow to me. A netpod that accelerates and flies to a star/website... just take me to the website instantly please!

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Netpod can feature

Netpod can feature teleportation technology and you can wear a com badge at all times. Eye

So, while that would make it possible to move from site to site immediately, I wouldn't get rid of the netpod - it would still be enjoyable randomly buzzing through the streams of internet traffic between the stars (sites) whooshing pass you. Smiling

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Well, this whole thing

Well, this whole thing starts to sound like Celestia with KHTML-support. ;-) Or like an Internet-version of FSV. ;-)
Or you could also bring in XTraceroute, that way you could jump all over the world from site to site. ;-)

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Celestia has KHTML support?

Celestia has KHTML support? Laughing out loud

Well, maybe a combination of these programs could serve as a basis for such an internet client. Smiling

Btw, just tried XTraceroute, cool thing, though I think I tried it once quite a while ago.. Interestingly.. although there is "no response" from it, to connect to these sites one of the routing servers seems to be in the middle of the ocean. Laughing out loud It goes from Zagreb, Vienna, Paris, that ocean spot and then Washington, Atlanta (Lever 3) and then finally to The Planet (data center provider where these sites are) in Dallas I presume. Cool! Smiling

Also, as I was looking into my repositories for fsv I found wikipediafs instead, which "is a mountable Linux virtual file system that allows to read and edit articles from Wikipedia (or any Mediawiki-based site) as if they were real files." Smiling

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libervisco wrote:

Celestia has KHTML support? Laughing out loud

Not that I know. But it would be cool, right? Displaying websites instead of planets, stars and interstellar rubble. ;-) This then could be joined with XTraceroute in order to get distances between sites in some proportion. :-)

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It would be really cool.

It would be really cool. Smiling

That reminds me I didn't try celestia in a while.. It was occasionally freezing my computer before.

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On my notebook Celestia and

On my notebook Celestia and also Stellarium run great, because there's a free driver for the integrated Intel-card (I love that Centrino-specification, it's like a quality-mark saying it'll surely run with Linux). But since my PC has a ATI-card I can't do any serious 3D-stuff without having to switch to slideshow-mode... Well, a driver is on it's way...

As said, I think it would be cool, although it could be seen as AMOR, Amusing Misuse Of Resources. ;-) But since AMOR is already some really stupid KDE-toy I guess we'll have to find another name for that. ;-)

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It could potentially be

It could potentially be turned into something useful in some way if it would be taken as a base for something more, but I'm not sure what right now.. I guess sometimes the value in things is not to be found in how functional they are. I believe that's what art exists for. Smiling

Offtopic: I've heard that this free Radeon HD driver is still going to use the controversial microcode already used in an existing R300 driver. Aside from that it's really unfortunate that AMD doesn't just wholly release the existing driver rather than keeping on releasing it as proprietary. I am not happy with mere open specifications if it wont result in a pure no-microcode driver and would still be a duplication of efforts already went to the proprietary driver.

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