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Can Windows Vista launch buy your senses?

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I've just watched (warning: direct link) a Windows Vista launch. Man, it's not like that wasn't expected, but they can practically buy your senses for the moment, yes even common sense. I wonder if anyone but us Free Software enthusiasts can resist this gigantic marketing machine that Microsoft has. For the moment it can seem like they own the world, they win everything and are unstoppable. They have chiefs of the largest corporations in the world lining up to get the first edition of Windows Vista and show up in their videos talking all the great things about Vista.

What an ironically crucial moment was it when execs of the major computer vendors were getting their Vista.. I mean, it is exactly those vendors who hold the key to GNU/Linux domination as well, either by starting pre-installing GNU/Linux or just dieing. But MS has got them by the balls pompously.

Oh well I'll save the rant. Everbody knows this anyway.

The question is how does GNU/Linux, apparently still an underdog, respond to this mind washing? How do we mind wash people back to our side? Eye

Everyone can contribute. Even this site can contribute. After experiencing a bit of their mind numbing spectacle, maybe we should put on a show of our own. The question is just.. how..

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I think that people who

I think that people who believe in free software believe in free software. This won't change because of a few adverts, and even if it does, you can make linux and bsd act / look like windows Vista. I dont think that I will use Windows Vista, I dont trust it, it uses too many resources and it is closed source.

I think that people will use it, then get bored with it. There is only so much eyecandy that people can take, and people will get fed up with Vista. Also, when the viruses start coming through ( and microsoft's new shell) there will be a whole load of problems for the microsoft users. All over again.

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Today there's a big

Today there's a big promotion for Vista here in Hong Kong.
They're giving away the Ultimate Edition (cool name, isn't it...), which usually is around 4000HK$ (which is pretty much like 400 Euro) for only around 700HK$ (so more or less just around 70 Euro). Pretty cheap, right?
I guess they really want to push it on the market.
I have to say that in terms of security Vista really seems to be a step in the right direction, at least from what you read until now (though there's some really funny flaw, but that's not only a Vista-problem in my oppinion: http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/422 ).
On the design-part I think it is, like XP was before, a step in the wrong direction. An OS that already consumes most of my graphics-power just to display some funky effects is not good, and that's for sure not the way it's supposed to be. Besides that Vista of course is also really hungry for RAM and hard-disc-space. Not to mention that it has DRM all over it.

For that new shell, the Windows PowerShell, it will come with Exchange 2007 as far as I read, but you can already download it. And since I have XP here in the office I gave it a try. It actually feels pretty good, and I already like it more than the normal MS (s)hell.
It can do piping and brings a lot of cool stuff we know from Linux, such as cat, ps and kill.
But the problem is that it's nothing for normal users who still even have problems handling the normal shell (which most people propably don't even know exists).
So the new Powershell will just be something for power-users/server-admins, but not for everybody (who would install Exchange 2007 on their home-box anyway?), although it's freely available for download.

About how to get back to them: Well, a little flick could do the trick. Show some of the cool things Linux can do. At this time I'm working on an idea of a short-movie, completely edited with OpenSource-software (only the DV-cam is a blackbox) by using Kino, Cinelerra, Gimp (or maybe Cinepaint) and maybe even Blender. Pretty much something like libervisco with his cool tune he made. ;-)
I guess we could use something like this, projects that show OpenSource, and especially Linux, is great and can do great things. I guess Elephants Dream pretty much did that for Blender (has anybody seen that movie?) and Plumiferos will propably give it another push.

So, why don't we sit down, activate our 3D-acceleration, record some rotation 3D-desktop and other cool things, just to show off that we can also be cool. Create some cool OpenTune as background-music, edit the flick with open tools like Cinelerra (I just started with it, but I think it's great) and maybe a few nice effects with Blender. We have all the software we need to strike back. And I'm sure that in our community here on Nuxified we have the knowledge and resources to create something cool (which reminds me of the ideas how to push Nuxified, this here could be a good thing!).

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Although videos of

Although videos of GNU/Linux with a cube have already been done (all over sites like YouTube) if we do it with a twist of some sort and advertising not just the looks, but the function and ease of use as well it might work quite well. I mean, instead of just showing people the eye candy we could take shots of various other aspects of what makes GNU/Linux so great. For example, we could take snapshots of discussions on Nuxified forums. Sticking out tongue

So it's really a good idea. And I could make some background music for it. Smiling

And you're absolutely right that this is one way we could promote Nuxified. It's been actually mentioned before, but never got around to it yet.

What do others think?

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I thought it was lame. It

I thought it was lame.

It shows the software is made to make it easy to do whatever microsoft thinks you want to do with your computer, and the user interface tricks used to make it easy weren't even invented by microsoft itself, I've seen them before elsewhere. Even that "ribbon" thing is just a tabbed palette in a different shape.

The next thing that came to my mind was how much complexity must have been added. I won't be surprised if Vista becomes the most-crashing ms windows ever.

I wasn't tempted to try this software at all. To be honest I skipped forward every time I got bored, so I may have missed some interesting bits.

What about the people about who microsoft is right about what they want to do with their computer? Well, those are going to be ripped off. I can't say I feel very sorry for the kind who thinks using canned templates is creativity Sticking out tongue .

What about making a linux-based OS for the unprofessional & uninspired? Well, why not? I'm not going to use it though.

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The excitement, or

The excitement, or sensation, that was created at the launch didn't include just the features of Vista, but the whole showcase of power. Did all those screens on Time Square really show Vista ads after that Reagan boy pushed the launch button? Well, I gotta give it to them for making a sensation out of it. They succeeded. And having major computer vendors CEOs line up to get Vista first edition just boosts the whole experience.

But of course, once you awake from this twisted dream world of Microsoft, you face the hard facts. And those hard facts are the DRM in Vista, how much ideas were taken from Mac OS X and GNU/Linux how little innovation there really is in the whole thing, not to mention how many lyes have been perpetrated at the event. (At the beginning Bill Gates made it seem as if Microsoft invented the GUI although he carefully used the words "got behind it", well they weren't the first who did).

To be honest, I like what I see GUI-wise on Vista, and some of the functionalities, that's just me, but considering all the rest of the crud I'd hardly bring myself to use it. In fact it disgusts me that a corporation so disrespectful towards users rights can come up with a product that has so little of their own ingenuity in it and claim to have invented it all, then paint it with artificial warm and fuzzy feelings while charging a premium over it. "Masters of deception", isn't devil usually portrayed like that?

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libervisco wrote:

The excitement, or sensation, that was created at the launch didn't include just the features of Vista, but the whole showcase of power. Did all those screens on Time Square really show Vista ads after that Reagan boy pushed the launch button? Well, I gotta give it to them for making a sensation out of it. They succeeded.

... succeeded in spending a lot of money, which they will get a thousand times from people buying Vista.

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And having major computer vendors CEOs line up to get Vista first edition just boosts the whole experience.

If you want to use Vista, you probably need a new computer. Of course those CEOs love that, and they also love free publicity.

I suppose I'm immune to product promotion campaigns, I stay awake and unimpressed.

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some thoughts

posting vids that show snaptic installing with ease and free important apps that people will use.

windows alternative apps, with ease of use

terminal walkthrough vids will be very popular.

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Video guides and tutorials,

Video guides and tutorials, good ideas fr0zenmon. Smiling

We could do that using some of the screen casting Free Software available (like xvidcap or instabul, though I didn't have great experiences with it yet), but then if we'd start making more of them hosting and bandwidth might become an issue.

It's something to be considered though.

Thanks

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a nice parody on Gates'
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Hehe very nice.

Hehe very nice. Smiling

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lawl

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