Skip to main content
Welcome guest. | Register | Login | Post

Contest ideas

24 replies [Last post]
libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04

One way to get this place cracking even more than it already does is to have a high profile contest. This thread is meant to get some of your ideas and possibly lead to the organization of the contest.

It might even be possible to have a monetary or otherwise real value award for the winner of the contest (so not just the abundant stuff like emails, subdomains and whatnot). The way I could arrange this is to have one of the potential advertising sponsors I have contact with, direct a certain (not too big) amount of money to your PayPal account, if you have one.

But that's not yet assured. Let's just say I'm to seriously consider such an award to spark some real motivation.

One idea I had was to simply hold a Nuxified wallpaper contest, to fill up the new wallpapers category linked from goodies.

It may not be the most original idea, but that's why we have this thread and you. There is no such thing as a stupid idea here, so just post away whatever comes to your mind. Smiling

michuk's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-08-20
Perhaps a contest for a new

Perhaps a contest for a new CSS for the website? I'm not saying the current one is bad, but if a professional web designer prepared a new cleaner one, that could way improve the usability, I guess.

waylandbill's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-07-13
A contest is a good idea to

A contest is a good idea to get users to find the site. Ultimately, it is the content that will keep them coming back though.

dylunio's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-20
I think a contest would be

I think a contest would be great to beef up productivity. It gives an incentive more than seeing work published to get work done.

I'll try and think of a some ideas for a competition.

dylunio

tbuitenh's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-21
I don't think a CSS contest

I don't think a CSS contest matches the purpose of nuxified. What about a contest for developing something small that makes life easier for linux newbies? (maybe application, maybe interactive website, maybe article, anything goes!)

But perhaps we're not in the position to give the kind of prizes that would require.

michuk's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-08-20
css=layout
tbuitenh wrote:

I don't think a CSS contest matches the purpose of nuxified. What about a contest for developing something small that makes life easier for linux newbies? (maybe application, maybe interactive website, maybe article, anything goes!)

What do you mean that CSS doesn't match the purpose of nuxified? I'm talking about a new CSS for nuxifed. New CSS=new layout/design. Of course you may believe that nuxified doesn't need a redesign but I think the matching the purpose is rather indisputable Smiling

a thing's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-20
not going to work

Contests on forums don't bring activity; discussions do. Contests are just a sign that someone wants more activity.

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
Alright, let's grok this one

Alright, let's grok this one by one.. Smiling

michuk wrote:

Perhaps a contest for a new CSS for the website? I'm not saying the current one is bad, but if a professional web designer prepared a new cleaner one, that could way improve the usability, I guess.

That's an interesting idea, when I think about it a bit, so it is something to be left for consideration. I am just not sure if it would really be fit for a competition. It is quite a job (especially when competing) which usually costs quite a bit and would hence require a really big prize for the contest to be motivating enough. And afterall, if we are not in need for a complete redesign, I can do the remaining cleanups in the CSS if necessary.

Do you think we need a new design?

Anyway, I'll leave it as one idea to consider. Smiling

waylandbill wrote:

A contest is a good idea to get users to find the site. Ultimately, it is the content that will keep them coming back though.

That's true. In a big way content is also what attracts users too, such as those articles which we publish sometimes. These users, however, don't always stick around since many just read the article and leave. We have some discussions here and support questions are lately answered rather promptly for a site this size so I think we do have some sticking points.

The idea with this competition is to attract more people to this community as much as to this site where it resides. It's about creating some buzz and possibly some promotional material to serve Nuxified for the longer term..

tbuitenh wrote:

What about a contest for developing something small that makes life easier for linux newbies? (maybe application, maybe interactive website, maybe article, anything goes!)

That's quite an open ended idea, so yeah something like that sounds cool, but what? Or you mean we should have contestants choose what to develop? If yes, again I am not sure people will be motivated enough to go for it.

a_thing wrote:

Contests on forums don't bring activity; discussions do. Contests are just a sign that someone wants more activity.

Yes, we need more activity, don't we? Eye But seriously, contests don't have to be just about signaling the need for more activity. We can have some real fun with it if we do it right and it could really attract some people to our community which would be more people to have these discussions with.

The overall idea is to bring more attention to the site by using something else than articles and whatever discussions we have here. If we have a good prize and an interesting subject of competition we'll probably get some coverage on news sites resulting in people coming to check it out and possibly enter the competition. And here's the catch; if we make the subject of the competition directly tied to Nuxified.org, we create some potentially useful associations. Smiling

I'm not sure I explained it well. For example, if the competition will be about making the best Nuxified wallpaper, the contestants would have to seek for what makes Nuxified unique and cool so that they can incorporate it into their work. Through this process they are becoming part of this community... but that's just one example. Smiling

dylunio's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-20
There are two 'kinds' of

There are two 'kinds' of competition that come to mind, one is a prize for a one off creation, e.g. the winning wallpaper gets a prize. The second 'kind' is where we say "The prize goes to the first person to make $n (good quality) articles", where the prize is for a series of things. With the second one it'll let us use articles submitted by all contestants untill one reaches $n articles.

Some ideas, not sure if they are any good, but there we are.

dylunio

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
Good ideas dylunio. The

Good ideas dylunio. The latter would of course create more stuff, but would then be a bit harder for contestants to do.

Anyway, if anyone else has some additional ideas I'd be happy to hear them. By sometime next week hopefully we could come up with something constructive. Smiling

Also, some here have expressed doubts about this competition so if there are any others who think it would be a waste of time or something, feel free to come forward too. We aren't doing anything yet, just discussing ideas. Smiling

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
OK, so how many of you think

OK, so how many of you think contest is a good idea to start with?

Unless I'm sure there's substantial support for doing this now it's probably best to postpone.

About ideas, one idea I had and which is a bit in line with what Taco proposed is about creating a most useful bash script. It's probably silly and alot of people wouldn't be able to do it, but there..

We need something easy to do so that the challenge is not in just doing it, but doing it good. Graphics stuff comes to mind most easily for this, but I'm hoping there are some others.

Or maybe there aren't any really good things to hold a competition about that will be easy and well fitting for this site.. or I just lack imagination.

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
Here's the idea that could

Here's the idea that could or might work. Smiling

Let the contest be about helping people, exactly what the site is about, but this time with a motivational boost. Let's say that the one who helps most people in a month time wins the price, while the rest of good helpers gain recognition. We could even enter every new member who joins and asks a question into a pool out of which we would randomly pick a winner of a secondary price.

So, the best helper gets the primary price and the random user who asked for help gets the secondary price. So both types are motivated to come onboard and start buzzing with questions and answers. After announcing this on news sites users might flock in with questions and GNU/Linux gurus with answers, exactly what we need.

Idea might be slightly sketchy, but who knows, it might work? What do you think?

michuk's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-08-20
good idea
libervisco wrote:

Let the contest be about helping people, exactly what the site is about, but this time with a motivational boost. [...] Idea might be slightly sketchy, but who knows, it might work? What do you think?

This seems like a good way to involve more people in Nuxified.org and this is great since the lack of enough popularity is the biggest stopper for the project, I believe. So yes, I think this is a good idea, the best of those proposed, yet.

free-zombie's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-03-08
sounds good. let's make

sounds good. let's make nxfdo the "site where people fight to help you first and best"

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
Alright, cool. Then now we

Alright, cool. Then now we need to organize the whole thing properly. One of the most important things are prizes because that is what will boost motivation. Dylunio has already offered to donate one cool prize that would probably fit the "best helper" so we need one for a randomly selected user. It could be a bit of money or an item ordered by a sponsor, but with an address of the winner instead of sponsors own. For example, a sponsor goes to the Amazon store, buys an item, but has Amazon send it to the address we provide him.

I believe I can find sponsors for this by simply offering them an advertising spot of comparable value.

So, what do you think? Is it better to have a certain item as a prize or money? How many people have PayPal? Sticking out tongue (I know I can't receive anything there, but I can direct a sponsor with a PayPal account to direct the prize money to the winner).

dylunio's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-20
Quote libervisco: So, what
libervisco wrote:

So, what do you think? Is it better to have a certain item as a prize or money? How many people have PayPal? Sticking out tongue (I know I can't receive anything there, but I can direct a sponsor with a PayPal account to direct the prize money to the winner).

A problem with certain item prizes is that they might not attract as meny people, but I'm uneasy with cash prizes for a reason I'm not 100% sure of at the moment. Thus an interesting compromise might be a prize of Think Geek vouchers or similar, it's not plain cash, but it gives more freedom than a set prize.

dylunio

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
One reason I know I am

One reason I know I am uneasy about cash prizes is because we are not able to offer really big money (like even above $100 for one prize) and whatever we can offer may not be enough to motivate. So something that looks much more interesting in itself (despite its usual low or high price) that can be conveniently brought by post to your doorstep seems like something that could look much more attractive.

ThinkGeek has a lot of exciting gadgets of which a good deal of isn't even that high priced, so maybe a voucher there as you say might be the best thing indeed. It's not same as cash you can spend on anything because you don't spend it yourself (in a way) and you can get only something from a limited but very cool choice of cool stuff. Smiling

I'll just have to see if any potential advertisers would be willing to sign up at ThinkGeek, if everyone agrees that's the best for second prize. Gonna look through ThinkGeek a bit further to see how are things there..

Btw, another thing to discuss is how to count how many times a certain member has helped and what general "rules of game" to establish for the contest to succeed.

Maybe we should appoint someone or a couple of people as trusted "counters" whose task would be to track all threads within a month time where someone asks questions and see who answers to help and who in the end can take the most credit for helping solve the problem. We should have some rules and guidelines for deciding this in a way that would be fair in eyes of everyone. Certain people like me and whoever else believes should not or simply does not want to be eligible for the contest can just be omitted from the counting.

Any other rules would deal with cheating prevention, and what is or isn't allowed in the contest. An example of something that would be allowed is inviting a person who asked a question on IRC to the Nuxified forums so that he/she can help that person publically and in a way that his help will be counted. I think that's perfectly fine. However, cheating practice such as, for example, having a deal with a friend to pretend that he needs help just for you to be the one who helps him so that you earn points and win is not to be allowed.

Any thoughts?

AndrewB's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-18
Why not given out books,

Why not given out books, every1 likes books? Sticking out tongue
The comp sounds like a good idea. thoug h I think we might attract the wrong audience. You could easily get people scamming. For instance I could get a friend to ask multiple questions, that I have a boot writen answer infront of me.

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
As mentioned above scamming

As mentioned above scamming would be banned by the rules of the competition and we would discourage everyone from even trying by asserting that we can detect scam tactics better than they might think. Eye

tbuitenh's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-21
Some analysis of the posts

Some analysis of the posts should make catching scams quite easy. If all or most answers are to questions asked by people with only one or two posts who signed up very recently, or asked by only one person, then something smells fishy.

But of course we don't need to do statistics, cause we pwn your computer. And we're psychic. Laughing out loud

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
Ok, I'm going to try to

Ok, I'm going to try to find a sponsor for the second prize in the following weeks. When do you guys think would be the best time to start the competition month? In December? Or maybe after xmas/new year?

Thanks

dylunio's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-20
I side more with the new

I side more with the new year and january, since people may be distracted by the comercial season (December).

dylunio

AndrewB's picture
Offline
Joined: 2005-12-18
I think after the new year.

I think after the new year. Not for any particular reason. Just as we may have more people then too.

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
Makes sense that way.

Makes sense that way. Smiling

libervisco's picture
Offline
Joined: 2006-05-04
I think I will be the

I think I will be the sponsor of the second prize. Eye

This contest is about to start soon (like this or next week), but we have to discuss some of the organizational details and put up a page with rules and guidelines for the contest and then an announcement.

I will open a new thread on the subject.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.