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Gustavo's picture
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Hello, everyone.

Please read my proposal for a project I've been working on: http://people.gnulinuxmatters.org/gustavo/documents/FreedomNeedsYou.org_presentation.odp

As always, please criticize with no mercy!

We might try to apply as a mentoring organization in Google SOC 2008, in order to make this project come true.

Cheers.

PS: I've just found this, which is related to the presentation: http://mail.fsfeurope.org/pipermail/press-release/2008q1/000201.html

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I love it. It makes very

I love it. It makes very good sense within the objectives of GLM.

My two cents:

  • I'm always the "back-of-the room guy" when it comes to discussing new things, I suppose, but I think we are still very far from being able to achieve this. In time, maybe within 1 or 2 years, we'll have shoulders large enough to lead such a project. Right now, we still lack the management capacities for that - but I see ourselves making progress.
  • The politics involved are scary. We are talking about uniting various movements around the world, many of which already don't go well together. I'm lucky to be able to see up close how some people work at the April, the "French FSF" (it's a fascinating process, btw); in Europe we already have several bodies interacting, the EFF, the FFII, the FSF, the FSFE, the April, ect, and it's very hard to have everyone set in the same direction. The problems involved taking decisions for/with 10 000 members spread in many countries are quite different from our tiny scale ;-)
  • The linking module should definitely be the start. Not only do we need it most, but also it's the starting brick from which we can build a community for this.
  • How do we get this into Google SOC? Google doesn't sponsor just "good ideas", it wants projects that move. We need precisely-defined objectives, on a single (preferably modest) project. We need mentors. Also, could we wait until the release of WaterZeabra to get the word out? We're still in an awkward position.

Well, this text all sounds pretty cold, but as far as I'm concerned, the idea is great. Perhaps it just comes too early. Be careful of not thinking too much faster than we can pedal =) I can still list tons of projects that were discussed during the last GLM summit, but never happened (yet). ;-)

Olivier.

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Hello!ariadacapo

Hello!

ariadacapo wrote:

I'm always the "back-of-the room guy" when it comes to discussing new things, I suppose, but I think we are still very far from being able to achieve this. In time, maybe within 1 or 2 years, we'll have shoulders large enough to lead such a project. Right now, we still lack the management capacities for that - but I see ourselves making progress.

I think we can and should start such a community, at least with the 'linking', 'materials' and 'donations' modules. The first module is mostly done, and works (not perfectly, but it really works), although I'd like to polish its code.

I've been polishing the code of Animador and Poliglota, as well as setting up a continuous integration system for PHP development at GLM, because I think PHP developers might join us soon. At least I hope so, either because they really want to help us out or just because they want to get their name listed on the project.

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The politics involved are scary. We are talking about uniting various movements around the world, many of which already don't go well together. I'm lucky to be able to see up close how some people work at the April, the "French FSF" (it's a fascinating process, btw); in Europe we already have several bodies interacting, the EFF, the FFII, the FSF, the FSFE, the April, ect, and it's very hard to have everyone set in the same direction. The problems involved taking decisions for/with 10 000 members spread in many countries are quite different from our tiny scale ;-)

I know we won't manage to make them work together, and that's not my intention. That's why I say that this should be led by GLM. These organizations will go on working on their own, *but* we, the ones who take care of the non-geeky people, would try to make non-technical people support their/our campaigns, their way (with fliers, website badges, etc).

We are committed to make everyday computer users make the switch to freedomware. What if we also give them the means to promote it?

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The linking module should definitely be the start. Not only do we need it most, but also it's the starting brick from which we can build a community for this.

+1, along with the materials module, at the least.

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How do we get this into Google SOC? Google doesn't sponsor just "good ideas", it wants projects that move. We need precisely-defined objectives, on a single (preferably modest) project. We need mentors.

Heck, I swear I was not drunk, but I promise I read last week that the deadline for mentoring organizations to apply was March 14th. It turns out that it ended 4 hours ago. Don't string me up, please!

We ought to take advantage of SoC next year, then.

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Also, could we wait until the release of WaterZeabra to get the word out? We're still in an awkward position.

Whatever! Without SOC life makes no sense Sad

Seriously, yes, let's get WZ ready first.

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Well, this text all sounds pretty cold, but as far as I'm concerned, the idea is great. Perhaps it just comes too early. Be careful of not thinking too much faster than we can pedal =) I can still list tons of projects that were discussed during the last GLM summit, but never happened (yet). ;-)

True. But I'd consider FNY at top priority (with the 3 modules above), after WaterZeabra-bugfix. What do you think?

Cheers!

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I wanted to know what

I wanted to know what WaterZeabra is and google led me to the GLM tracker: https://tracker.gnulinuxmatters.org/
But apparently I can't connect to it:

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Secure Connection Failed

tracker.gnulinuxmatters.org uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.
The certificate is only valid for svn.gnulinuxmatters.org.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)

edit:
I had to "add an exception" to access it. Is this normal?
But maybe it's also because I use FF3 beta3. Eye

Gustavo's picture
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Hi, KIAaze!Please visit:

Hi, KIAaze!

Please visit: https://tracker.gnulinuxmatters.org/wiki/DigitalCertificates

Just enable this certificate in your browser: http://certs.gnulinuxmatters.org/glm-ca_cert.crt

Oh, and WaterZeabra is one of our milestones: https://tracker.gnulinuxmatters.org/roadmap

Cheers!

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