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ariadacapo wrote: 1)
ariadacapo wrote:

1) register warumgnulinux.de, to avoid hijacking
2) go to a large German forum and discuss a new url there. I speak German but not well enough to choose a domain, and there aren't too many German speakers here ;-) . If someone comes up with a better idea, we might be able to take it (losing 20eur, but that's ok with my finances, knowing how important a TLD is), otherwise stick to warumgnulinux.de

Yes, that sounds reasonable, but 20 EUR is a lot. To tell you the truth, I didn't expect you to be permitted to register it - I thout .de was Germans only.

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hmrph, we have a problem

hmrph, we have a problem Sad clear winner of the poll is 'linuxfueralle.de', but, alas, it is already taken. sorry about that, i should have checked the availability of all the TLDs before starting the poll.

there is currently nothing online on 'linuxfueralle.de', so we could try to ask the current owner whether he would be willing to hand it over?

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no worry

no worry it happens Smiling
The domain gnulinux.fr slipped from my hands, only in a matter of hours (I actually registered it but someone was quicker and the registrar had to refund me). I also had false hopes for various other domains.

We sure can ask the owner of linuxfueralle.de . If you can do it (my German is terrible) it'd be great, don't hesitate to speak in the name of GNU/Linux Matters.

Another name that got suggested in the poll is darumlinux.de or darumgnulinux.de . That sure sounds terrific to me but it seems only one person suggested it... I guess my German is not good enough to judge.

I'll leave the decision entirely to you German native speakers - there's no hurry.

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I'll write to the owner.

I'll write to the owner.

edit: this is the mail I sent:

Sehr geehrter Herr Schütz,

Kürzlich wurde die Deutsche Übersetzung der Seite <http://www.getGNULinux.org/>,
einer an Anfänger gerichteten Informationsseite über GNU/Linux, fertig gestellt.
Den Text der Übersetzung können Sie unter http://wiki.getgnulinux.org/de/ einsehen.

Was der Ãœbersetzung noch fehlt ist eine Domain. Die Domain "linuxfueralle.de" wurde
unter <http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/77928/> von Mitgliedern der deutschsprachigen
Ubuntu-Community als beste Möglichkeit ausgewählt, ist aber, was uns zu dem
Zeitpunkt nicht bekannt war, schon von Ihnen registriert.
Aus diesem Grund würden wie gerne die von Ihnen scheinbar nicht verwendete Domain
übernehmen. Bitte teilen Sie uns so bald wie möglich Ihre Ansicht bzw. Bedingungen
mit. Für uns wäre es am einfachsten, wenn Sie sich in Englisch oder Französisch
an Olivier Cleynen  wenden könnten. Möchten oder können Sie
das nicht tun, werde ich gerne vermitteln.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

  Thomas Jollans
im Auftrag von GNU/Linux Matters

So Olivier, if a Mr Hans-Joachim Schütz contacts you in English or French soon, be delighted and tell us ;-)

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GNU

So now we're dropping "GNU" from a domain name too?

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that has been a concern of

that has been a concern of me, too, and one of the reasons why i preferred 'warumgnulinux.de'. OTOH, passeralinux.fr doesn't have GNU in it either.

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I got a response; Here is

I got a response; Here is the content:

Quote:

ich hatte die Domain afaik 2003 registriert, damals war einmal eine
Community für Linux-Newbies geplant, was sich aber aus Zeitgründen
zerschlagen hat.

Ich selber bin Linuxuser und unterstütze den OS-Gedanken aus Prinzip
und versuche auch, wo immer es geht, dies bei Kunden (bin
EDV-Dienstleister) herüberzubringen.

Was nicht immer gelingt, zumal wenn der Kunde
Windows-only-Branchenlösungen im Einsatz hat.

Kurzum, ich habe dafür roundabout 50 € verbraten, dafür könnt Ihr sie
haben. Die einzige Bedingung wäre, daß die Domain nicht innerhalb
eines Jahres an einen kommerziellen Anbieter von Linuxlösungen,
-Support oder gar an Verlage weiterveräußert wird.

Deal??

Basically, we could have the domain for 50 EUR (roughly what he wasted on the name), if we keep the domain at least a year (and don't sell it to a commercial Linux software/supprt company, a publishing company or something like that).

What say-you, people ? Olivier ?

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re: domain name

I really don't know, it's entirely up to you.
If you believe it's better to go for linuxfueralle.de , I'll purchase it, no problem. I don't like the conditions by principle (huh? we can't use it for what we want?) but that's the dirty trade of domain names I guess.
If you prefer a "GNU" in the domain, go for it! I'm really not going to interfere here. Just pick a domain you believe sounds good and people will be able to remember.

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I'd say we go for for the

I'd say we go for for the deal and purchase linuxfueralle.de : it's the clear winner of the poll, and 50E is not overly expensive IMHO. i don't think the other conditions pose a problem, since it's limited to one year and no one intends to give it to a company, anyway.

in case the money is not an issue, we could even keep warumgnulinux.de, since olivier has already registered it, and have it forward to linuxfueralle.de. BTW is there already a possibility to donate to GNU/Linux Matters ;o) ?

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I have no problem with the

I have no problem with the condition - He's basically not getting anything out of the deal (the 50 EUR have already been spent on the domain), and the conditions are there that he has some security that the domain is really being used in our worthy way.

I think linuxfueralle.de is good, too. Olivier, you're the guy with the money and the founder; tell me what to answer (like, y/n and whether I should just ask for bank account data or something...)

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any news on this?

any news on this?

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I myself are in favour of

I myself are in favour of buying the domain, but Olivier is the one with the money and management so I'm still waiting for a response from that end.

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I'm sorry for disappearing.

I'm sorry for disappearing. I'm about to quit my studies and jump into the GNU/Linux Matters bandwagon, much sooner than I anticipated. It takes time to organise. Soon there'll be no more lapses like this.

Yes let's buy the domain. Free-zombie if you can get me in touch with that person I'll get the domain. I can read German pretty well and write readably enough to organise the transfer; I also have a German bank account which will make the payment easier.

Olivier.

NB: I'll catch up with other threads very soon.

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no problem - i don't think

no problem - i don't think we are in a particular hurry. i was just pushing the thread to the top cause i thought that the owner of linuxfueralle.de was probably waiting for an answer.

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sorry to push this thread

sorry to push this thread to the top once again... but has there been any progress on this? i'm curious to learn whether the deal could be made or not and looking forward to the german translation going online.

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Sorry to be late on this...

Sorry to be late on this... free-zombie asked the person to contact me - I had no news, so I sent him an email today. I hope this will be over very soon now.

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The owner replied to me

The owner replied to me this evening (he was travelling), and announced he will be able to sell the domain to us this week. I'll keep this thread updated.

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Since I had no reply I

Since I had no reply I tried once again today. I'd say if we have no response before the end of the week, we should back down to another domain.

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German adress is needed

I now have contact with the owner and made payment.

For the transfer, as per the specific regulations for the .de TLDs, we need a German address. I do not currently live in Germany, so can anyone please help out?
All we need is a German letterbox - the TLD owner will remain GNU/Linux Matters. I don't expect much mail to come there - so all that there is to be done is to read/forward any important mail or death threats ;-)
Please contact me directly (olivier@GGL , contact form or profile) if you can help out - thanks!

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i can't help you on this,

i can't help you on this, since i live in switzerland.

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