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GNU/Linux so good it's boring

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libervisco's picture
Joined: 2006-05-04

I sometimes feel a bit like the guy who wrote this article,

He's not really saying anything against GNU/Linux. In a contrary...

Anthony Taylor wrote:

Don't get me wrong: I still love GNU/Linux. It's just gotten. . . boring. It's no longer the undiscovered country, the wild west, the final frontier. Forgive my metaphor mix-o-rama. I just want to say, Linux is so ready for the desktop, it's boring. There's really not much left for me to explore. The only reason GNU/Linux has managed to keep my attention this long is that it was born about the same time as the web, and the two have matured together. (A coincidence? Oh, I don't think so.)

Basically, it's working so good that for certain kinds of people it's just not a challenge anymore, or they're just too used to it.

Though choice of more "tinkering-oriented" distributions will always exist, like LFS, gentoo, Slackware etc. he promotes some other choices like Plan 9, Haiku OS, Minix 3 etc.

It's certainly good that GNU/Linux is getting so friendly as this means it has a potential to dominate and since it, as Free Software, provides for so much choice and innovation it can only be a great thing. The alternatives to the whole leading GNU/Linux universe still exist though. I especially like where Haiku OS is going, for example.

It's probably that most innovations from other Unix-like OSs will eventually end up in GNU/Linux, but still.. there may be certain fundamental differences (not necessarily too revolutionary, but for some still significant). For example, while Linux kernel is monolithic, some OSes may use kernels that are microkernel based. Basically the changes that matter would be of such fundamental nature.

It seems like the days when differences between two OSes were so great and obvious (like between Windows and GNU/Linux, Windows and OSX) are gone. As Free Software goes towards domination, all code is basically getting cross platform and all OS's can basically look anyway you want them (there's less and less of that OS-specific look). It's as if the whole notion of what is an Operating System is getting basically standardized.

Now I just wonder, on that note, whether Haiku BeFS could be ported to GNU/Linux..

Hmm maybe I should have turned this into an article. Maybe I will, after this discussion, if anyone has anything to say? Smiling

tbuitenh's picture
Joined: 2005-12-21
I like playing with

I like playing with alternative operating systems too. But I also need to get my work done, so I need to keep GNU/Linux and make sure I don't accidentally wipe its partition with a typo in an installer...
So I use QEMU. Which makes trying new operating systems safe, and indeed a little boring.

But why depend on others for creating that lovely geeky feeling for you? Learn to code, and write your own programs with insane user interfaces. In the end geeky computing is all about making yourself uncomfortable and discovering new concepts...

libervisco's picture
Joined: 2006-05-04
I also use qemu mostly.

I also use qemu mostly. Being caught in this sort of mood I downloaded latest Haiku image and the Plan 9 livecd and tried it in qemu. Haiku is progressing quite nicely, cool thing to look at in a qemu window, but.. what should I do with it except just try out various included apps.. I quickly get bored and close it down. I'd like to try Haiku on a real install though. Smiling

So you're probably right about coding. There's also LFS and gentoo in the GNU/Linux realm. Smiling

whisper's picture
Joined: 2006-09-06

Why don't you all try GNU/HURD? It's a microkernel based on mach. More info on I think it's going to be the OS for the future of the opensource world... maybe, maybe not... I bet it will be something new for you all to learn Smiling

Joined: 2006-11-19
I used to think like that

I used to think like that too, it was something I hadent tried, I wanted to see what it was all about. So when I did I would have it for a bit and get rid of it, have it for a bit and get rid of it, this went on and on (mainly because I used to have PowerPC junk) but everytime I got rid of it, I felt like I wanted it back. I found that it was much easier to have things installed and working correctly on linux, and at no cost to what I wanted to install, it was more configurable and open but yet it was very simple to use and the support base is massive, you can get help fast Smiling. I don't find it boring though, for me now its just routine -- hop on the computer and do some work without any worries of having to do stuff before I can start my work.

Joined: 2005-12-20
I'm in pretty much the same

I'm in pretty much the same position as the guy who wrote the article. I dont use linux any more because it seems everyone else is, one of the things I liked about it was that it was kind of non-mainstream. I know its weird but its true. Also, its got so... normal that you know most things about using now, its no longer a challenge.

libervisco's picture
Joined: 2006-05-04
GNU/Hurd is a good idea for

GNU/Hurd is a good idea for another qemu run. Smiling For actual productive use GNU/Linux, at least for me, is the only real option (though this option includes quite a few distro choices).

Onlinebacon, I've heard some people say that same thing about using BSD before, that it is non-mainstream. Actually, big_k, the owner of said that. Smiling

Joined: 2005-12-20
Thats nice to hear I like

Smiling Thats nice to hear Sticking out tongue

I like being part of a niche, and I guess that is what the BSD's fill ( a productive niche). Although it does run a very high percentage of the internet. I think BSD is the most productive non-mainstream operating system.

ma_d's picture
Joined: 2006-07-07
This is why I liked it

That's what I grew to love most about my Linux box. The longer I used it ... the less time I spent keeping it up. It's nice not having to fix your computer!

Joined: 2007-01-07
Its like life you where you

Its like life, where you have the producers and the consumers. Producers both produce and consume while consumers almost only consume. Likewise you have computerhackers (not minding illegal cracking) and regular computerusers who cant or dont want to spend time fixing rebuking software. The creation of a operatingsystem, or any software for that matter, is like evolving from the stone age (and whatever was beyond), where everyone had to produce to provide their society, into a modern society with both producers and consumers who just use the produced. Now, once a product is completely produced, the producer cannot unproduce it or produce it again, the producer will have to produce another product, striving to make it similar or better. A hacker cant code what already is coded. He has to create some new code. That is the urge of every hacker, to create something new, something else, something that is hopefully better. And that is good, for both parts.

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