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Ok nuxified.org has been up a good few months now, and while we are going forward, we are not going the forward we aimed for.

It has recently become more of a news and reiveiws page as apposed to a FOSS and GNU help forum. Which is good becuase we are getting a bit better known but the main purpose is letting slip.

What we could really do with is questions. To help people with problems and such.

I wish I could go back to when I started and help out by asking these questions, but I can not. And anything I have problems with I normally work out.

Guys we must be holding back some thigns we havn't had working in the past, things we dont know!

We also really need the kinda people that are brand new to linux. The ones that don't know their kernel from their console.

Can anybody think of any ideas to get the newer linux folk, and to attract a wider audience?

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I differ from this feeling a great deal, unfortunately.

I'm more of a one-stop-shopper. I like the idea of a hub for tech support, newbie tech support, news, advocacy, and company startup talk. It is difficult to have to keep logging in and out of these different websites in a network, and I don't even think that synchronizing the passwords is the big issue -- it's the time and the clicks. I also find the XOOPS interface of Libervisco to be particularly annoying to my tastes. The page also loads much slower than phpBB.

One strategy could be to do it the ODSL way. You standardize on this custom phpBB that Daniel has here. You put tabs at the top of the page that say, and I'm doing rapid-fire, unclear thinking here, but it would say something like: News :: Newbie Support :: Tech Support :: Advocacy :: Startups. You have one single, unified login. Clicking each tab at the top takes you to separate phpBB installs, but which all pretty much look the same and give you the same feeling you had gotten used to.

In my mind, I like a .org. It makes sense. It's not a commercial enterprise, really. People then memorize one address -- nuxified.org -- and it means "getting converted and using *nux". You build brand recognition with just one brand and can throw all your energy into it. That's when you start making T-shirts at CafePress and selling them for $5 a piece at conferences, or perhaps a generous donor could help Daniel give these away for free.

The ads that are placed on these sites are part of a brand new advertising network that Daniel would come up with. He could try to see if he could make it into a ring so that other sites carry it and share the same ads. The ads would go under strict ethical scrutiny for the FLOSS movement, and carry hardware, toys/apparrel, and workshop stuff too, and would cater to the content of the given page. If you clicked on software and web development tech support, it would recognize this and try to show you where to purchase some cool computer hardware or a programmer's keyboard, or perhaps some new cool SDK. If you clicked on Newbie, then you could get a plush Tux toy for your desk so that you could hug it when you were scared. And a trickle of that money goes back to Nuxified.org through moneybookers.com without much hassle, even if the user used PayPal to purchase the item.

I think that if this strategy is used instead, you could hear people say, "Dude, have you been to Nuxified? Cool site!" Instead, you might hear, "Dude, have you been to Nuxified?" "Um, nah. I only go to Libervis. What's that?" Daniel could change all that with focus.

AND here's a HUGE point. Think about it from the newbie perspective. You say you want newbies here. You say you want people competent to help these newbies here. Fine. How do you get the two together unless you make a one-stop-shop kind of site? The competent people might not need to visit this site as frequently, so the newbies suffer. But if you offer things to draw the competent people here, such as a Startups link that brings them to interviews with cool people, or offers them a forum to discuss quitting their day job and going GNU, or perhaps a Linux Advocacy news site -- you get it, right? You get eyeballs that way and now you have an opportunity to steer those eyeballs to helping the newbies. Perhaps in fact that is what this site has been suffering all along.

And the Nuxified foot symbol is even really cool. The foot is even a browser icon in my bookmarks. It burns in your brain. You begin to focus on it.

However, ultimately it is Libervisco (Daniel)'s decision. That's just my opinion, because I want to continue to grow this community, and because I think it's mutually beneficial to me and others.

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Well, we've been focusing more on reviews and articles (though only few got released so far) because they have the best chance of bringing us traffic of visitors among which there could be people who will post more, ask questions and give answers.

So you're right we need more newbies and generally people that can ask alot of questions. Of course, then we should also have guys that can answer alot of questions too. If we have too much of newbies asking, but not getting answers that is bad too, so we need both.

How do we get them? Well, one way is to write reviews and articles that will get alot of attention and bring us those potential users. Maybe we can make some of those articles be on topics that would make more of them want to stick to Nuxified.org.. not exactly sure which topics would that be, maybe you have some ideas..

Another ways are link exchanges, being mentioned on other sites in a positive light, just generally be widely promoted as a place people can talk about Free Software and get help, not only with GNU/Linux, but BSD's, OpenSolaris and even other free operating systems.

One of the best forms of advertising today is something called "viral marketing" or "word of mouth" marketing. That basically means simply spreading the word wherever we can. The best people that can spread the word are actual members who are so satisfied that they want to promote us more. So, we should make our current members satisfied, and then encourage them to spread the word. I can spread the word that way as well, but since I'm the founder of this place it may in many cases be construed as self promotion and dismissed. That's why I have to mostly stick to other ways of promoting. I can't just go around telling people to come to Nuxified.org because it rocks. That's what happy members should be doing. Smiling

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Well, I have a guy at hand which might be more than suitable to ask more questions anybody here could answer.
He's a friend of mine and right now I do about 2-4 hours of support for him because he also had to try Linux from Scratch after I told him that I have that running now.
I can try to lure him onto this site, but I'm not sure if he'll do since his English is really miserable.

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"supermike" wrote:

I'm more of a one-stop-shopper. I like the idea of a hub for tech support, newbie tech support, news, advocacy, and company startup talk. It is difficult to have to keep logging in and out of these different websites in a network, and I don't even think that synchronizing the passwords is the big issue -- it's the time and the clicks.

It would be great to have accounts syncronized and if it was that easy we would already be doing it. We've discussed this idea some time ago and at this point it just seems too difficult or at least too risky to be attempted with what we have right now.

For one, the two members databases are completely different not only in structure, but content as well. Libervis.com has 610 members and Nuxified.org has 77 and most of them are completely different members. How do we now synchronize all of them? We would have to import all those libervis members to Nuxified.org database and those of Nuxified.org who aren't in libervis.com to libervis.com database and reset all their passwords to be the same.

Of course, making that doesn't make sense without also creating a whole new authentication system that would have every member who registers at one site register at another two. This leaves a problem of completely different database structures so basically we'd have to have a separate authentication system somewhere in a special location that would do real time conversion. And even that is risky because database structures are subject to change with new versions of XOOPS and phpbb (not to mention drupal on Nuxified.com).

So, it may not seem like a big deal to you, but there is alot of variables to consider and alot of risks involved and unknowns to address.

Even if we'd connect Libervis.com, Nuxified.org and even Nuxified.com, what happens with new sites that may eventually be added to the network? Those may yet have a completely different systems behind them that we would again have to severely tamper with to be added to our authentication system.. yet another big unknown.

Libervis Network is not one site. It is merely a group of sites with somewhat related topics that happen to be interlinked together and promoted both individually and as part of a bigger network. The benefit of having them promoted as part of that network is that people can identify with it and its way of working. In a way, they can trust that any site that wears a "libervis" label is what they want to associate with.

"supermike" wrote:

I also find the XOOPS interface of Libervisco to be particularly annoying to my tastes. The page also loads much slower than phpBB.

That's merely about ones taste. Some people have told me that they actually like XOOPS better. I also think that in many ways the XOOPS forum outways phpbb. In fact, I'm not really a fan of phpbb, but we use it because for this kind of site there doesn't appear to be much alternatives right now.

"supermike" wrote:

One strategy could be to do it the ODSL way. You standardize on this custom phpBB that Daniel has here. You put tabs at the top of the page that say, and I'm doing rapid-fire, unclear thinking here, but it would say something like: News :: Newbie Support :: Tech Support :: Advocacy :: Startups. You have one single, unified login. Clicking each tab at the top takes you to separate phpBB installs, but which all pretty much look the same and give you the same feeling you had gotten used to.

You mean OSTG? The OSTG network has completely different sites in. I don't think linux.com and slashdot are syncronized. I've also looked at osdl.org and I don't see an example of what you mean, if I get it correctly.

However, what you seem to be suggesting is basically a creation of one big site instead of one network. That site would be the kind of "one stop shop" indeed, but should basically replace Libervis.com completely. That said, this is just plain impossible. Libervis.com aren't only forums to be replaced by phpbb. There we have articles, news, gallery, a wiki and a whole blogging network. Maybe you could find phpbb mods to cover all that to a point, but that would be such a dirty hack and would never bring the kind of stability that these modules have in Libervis.com XOOPS installation. You'd just never get the same kind of experience.

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The ads that are placed on these sites are part of a brand new advertising network that Daniel would come up with. He could try to see if he could make it into a ring so that other sites carry it and share the same ads.

That advertising network is one thing that is planned. Mere phpadsnew installation on Libervis.com space would do, and ads would simply be displayed on all network sites, and sold through a form I plan on making at http://network.libervis.com That much is doable, to merely serve for selling advertising for all libervis network sites in one place. If it should expand later to include other sites is still a big question. We are in a process of creating an alliance of Free Software/Culture web sites that could have the capacity to at some point in the future make a real adsense-like network that can include many more sites than those already in Libervis Network.

"supermike" wrote:

I think that if this strategy is used instead, you could hear people say, "Dude, have you been to Nuxified? Cool site!" Instead, you might hear, "Dude, have you been to Nuxified?" "Um, nah. I only go to Libervis. What's that?" Daniel could change all that with focus.

If I understand correctly, you are worried people might recognize both brands as separate from each other, while not realizing that there is a connection, right? Well, for one, if a guy says he only goes to libervis, then he must be interested in the kinds of topics libervis.com covers, which are not the same as topics Nuxified.org covers. So if those interest him while Nuxified.org doesn't, so be it. Why should that be a problem?

I don't however think people wont be aware that these two sites are related and are part of the network. On both homepages there is a "Libervis Network" block with links to other network sites, including http://network.libervis.com where they have an overview of all Libervis Network sites (and will soon have even more info about it in general). I am basically co-branding individual sites with "Libervis Network".

"supermike" wrote:

You say you want people competent to help these newbies here. Fine. How do you get the two together unless you make a one-stop-shop kind of site? The competent people might not need to visit this site as frequently, so the newbies suffer. But if you offer things to draw the competent people here, such as a Startups link that brings them to interviews with cool people, or offers them a forum to discuss quitting their day job and going GNU, or perhaps a Linux Advocacy news site -- you get it, right? You get eyeballs that way and now you have an opportunity to steer those eyeballs to helping the newbies. Perhaps in fact that is what this site has been suffering all along.

Well, that's what different forums are for. Some are more oriented to newbies and others are more for expert discussions where experts can discuss things that interest them, share ideas and help each other on that level. Some of the reviews and articles that we'll have could also cover some more advanced topics for those people. Your idea seems to be expanding the site to include the whole realm of Libervis.com, which thus includes the talk about advocacy and business as well. That would wipe Libervis.com off the map.

My idea, instead, was to focus on Nuxified.org as a community powered tech support site, nothing more and nothing less. This support can be provided in various levels, from newbies to experts, keeping them all interested. Libervis.com is not about tech support. Its topic is deeper, more philosophical and more general. It also includes the topic of economy and therefore business models. It is about all that non-technical stuff that surround Free Software and further Free Culture. Technical stuff is reserved for Nuxified.org. This is why there is not a forum for discussing business models or Free Software philosophy on Nuxified.org and such things therefore merely go to the offtopic Nuxified lounge where you've been posting them.

"supermike" wrote:

However, ultimately it is Libervisco (Daniel)'s decision. That's just my opinion, because I want to continue to grow this community, and because I think it's mutually beneficial to me and others.

I appreciate your opinion. It does give me something to think about and ponder. Your propositions, however, just seem to grand and drastic to excercise at this point, bearing alot of risks that could in the worse case mean breaking of the whole thing. Libervis.com currently has the most stable traffic and even the commercial potential. It also has some unique recognition. Doing some of the changes you proposed bears a risk of loosing it all.

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Libervisco: That was a rapid response. I ask that you focus on the key point of the eyeball problem among all these sites when I state:

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You say you want people competent to help these newbies here. Fine. How do you get the two together unless you make a one-stop-shop kind of site? The competent people might not need to visit this site as frequently, so the newbies suffer. But if you offer things to draw the competent people here, such as a Startups link that brings them to interviews with cool people, or offers them a forum to discuss quitting their day job and going GNU, or perhaps a Linux Advocacy news site -- you get it, right? You get eyeballs that way and now you have an opportunity to steer those eyeballs to helping the newbies. Perhaps in fact that is what this site has been suffering all along.

It's all about the eyeballs. As for logistics on synchronizing accounts, sites, etc. -- that's a relatively minor issue, especially when you have a lot of help you can call out for.

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I'll start of with this:

libervis.com != nuxified.com

I feel that libervis.com is more philisophical site - it discusses our freedoms and how we can try and better the world.

I see nuxified.org as a tech site for help and content on Free tech stuff, no more no less.

I do feel that the sites should integrate more, having a link on the side saying "Libervis" or something doesn't make it obvious that nuxified.org and libervis.com are the same network. Something like a bar at the top on each of the network sites, which links to other parts of the network would be cool - since it makes the sites more obviously networked.

my $0.02

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If you want a one-stop shop, go to http://network.libervis.com . It's not perfect yet (could use longer RSS blocks so things don't "drop out of the feed" so quickly) but this will be the best that can be done for now and the near future.

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"supermike" wrote:

Libervisco: That was a rapid response. I ask that you focus on the key point of the eyeball problem among all these sites when I state:

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You say you want people competent to help these newbies here. Fine. How do you get the two together unless you make a one-stop-shop kind of site? The competent people might not need to visit this site as frequently, so the newbies suffer. But if you offer things to draw the competent people here, such as a Startups link that brings them to interviews with cool people, or offers them a forum to discuss quitting their day job and going GNU, or perhaps a Linux Advocacy news site -- you get it, right? You get eyeballs that way and now you have an opportunity to steer those eyeballs to helping the newbies. Perhaps in fact that is what this site has been suffering all along.

I believe I see your point. It is just that I don't see merging topics that are currently covered by Libervis.com with topics covered on Nuxified.org, as the best solution. Sure we can provide links to resources on Libervis.com (such as interviews and articles, business model ideas). That much can be done. But merging it all into one big "one-stop-shop" site may just be a bit of an overkill which would infact obsolete Libervis.com as it stands now.

We can even expand Nuxified.org to include some extra stuff that would appeal to these competent people, but still not move away from the core purpose of this site which is Free Software community tech support.

I just think there are ways to keep both competent people and newbies interested without going that far.

One slightly related idea that Taco (tbuitenh) had is to have a block on all Libervis Network sites called "More from Libervis Network" that would displays some links (probably feeds) to material slightly related to the material on a given site. So, for example, we could have this on Nuxified.org homepage, or even topic view pages that would display links to latest entries in a "Free Software" forum on Libervis.com, so that if there are any people interested in the advocacy and philosophy part of Free Software (aside from technical) they can go read that and participate there as well, discussing those kinds of topics there, while discussing technical stuff and helping each other with tech stuff here. Because their topics and posts from that Libervis.com forum are also displayed on Nuxified.org, they'd probably deem it worth participating on both sites instead of just one.

That is something that can and probably will be done. Libervis Network is still very young. You definitely haven't seen it in its full potential yet.

"supermike" wrote:

It's all about the eyeballs. As for logistics on synchronizing accounts, sites, etc. -- that's a relatively minor issue, especially when you have a lot of help you can call out for.

Do you have an actual idea on how could it be done without the risks and problems I've mentioned?

I'm just not so sure that is a good idea at this point considering the risks involved and some practical problems. Not all Libervis Network sites are on the same server, for one. And not all of them use the same web system. The only option that comes close to viability that I see is having a special authentication system separate from all of these sites, which would have a central users database and constantly try to synchronize that db with all other site dbs. But how do you make it communicate directly with a database from another server? Also, what should it do if one of the sites it has to synchronize with is down? Would it work without having to make drastic modifications to the database structures of these sites (modifications which inevitably introduce maintanance problems).

Even if viable, all this would require a team of developers working on it as a real project of its own.

"dylunio" wrote:

I do feel that the sites should integrate more, having a link on the side saying "Libervis" or something doesn't make it obvious that nuxified.org and libervis.com are the same network. Something like a bar at the top on each of the network sites, which links to other parts of the network would be cool - since it makes the sites more obviously networked.

Yes, that's one idea just propose on IRC. A horizontal bar on top of all Libervis Network pages would make it quite clear that these sites are networked. The bar would link to other sites and even to some of its most important resources. The bar would be much like the one OSTG has on its sites (linux.com, slashdot, freshmeat, sf.net etc.). Since we have probably more than 10 000 pages in the network, it would also probably bring quite a rank boost and even some traffic to our sites.

Thanks

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I guess I'm the odd man out here. I'm stuck on the one-stop-shop idea. I won't harp on it any longer, though. I like the concept of a website with:

News :: Newbie Support :: Tech Support :: Advocacy :: Startups

and all of it going to a single login with phpBB/drupal + RSS as its interface.

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You know, supermike, that idea could actually work in one way, though without single login. We could set it up on http://network.libervis.com .

There could be such a menu on that page that goes something like this:

News :: Tech Support :: Philosophy & Advocacy :: Business

"News" would lead to a page with RSS of all news sources over Libervis Network.
"Tech Support" would link a page with RSS of Nuxified Forums, or directly to Nuxified Forums.
Philosophy & Advocacy would link a page with RSS of Libervis.com forums on the subject of philosophy and advocacy for Free Culture and Free Software
And "Business" would go to Libervis "business and economy" forum.

Maybe not exactly as that, but that would be the general idea, contextually labeled links to various network resources from one top page. Libervis Network homepage is actually meant to be the top node of Libervis Network with a full overview of what it is and what it offers.

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I think it makes sense to take the tiny bar that already is above libervis blogs to all libervis sites.

I also realized a one stop shop simply can't be done. Why? Some of the freedom alliance websites will cooperate closely with libervis network sites, up to a point where it doesn't make sense to distinguish between those sites and Danijel's libervis network. However they could never be part of the same one stop shop.

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Sounds like a plan. My mind has a marketing bent sometimes. I want to help you achieve your goals.

I also like how you put it: News :: Tech Support :: Philosophy & Advocacy :: Business. I guess the only thing missing is to say that this is about Free Software and Free Operating Systems, and, oh, by the way that means GNU and Linux too.

So then the next goals could be:

* Call a vote on XOOPS vs. phpBB and see which one people prefer. Stick with whatever people suggest, or, for the really insane, give them a cookie that let's them choose which interface they want to see when they hit the site.
* Switch to drupal at network.libervis.com. I like the frontpage look of nuxified.org the best.
* Drop the "network" part so that you go to some .com or .org to make it easy and then choose to go from there to somewhere else. Make it a catchy title with a great logo, yet easy to remember like lxer.com.
* Synchronize the accounts, even if that means putting everyone in one database and reissuing passwords to their email addresses.
* Drop the other .coms and .org so that it's all one organization. That way, you draw people into that top site. I strongly believe that without doing that, then people will go straight to the sub sites -- these other domains, and then you end up with what you have now, where no one seems to want to offer tech support in Nuxified.org. My take is that you need to draw everyone's attention to a central point and advertise the other sub groups from there, in order to achieve an effect. Want to help noobs? Fine, whenever I read a news site or try to cut an advanced tech support request under this new network, I get to see a well-placed ribbon somewhere on the screen that begs the question, "Have you helped a noob today? We'd like to grow our network. Please consider it." and a link to where the noobs hang out.
* Create almost one consistent look except perhaps the color theme is different among the sites.
* Make the news site load extremely fast but yet be about as informative as lxer.com on its frontpage without having to click anything unless you really want to do so.

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From IRC, about sharing accounts across the libervis network (and beyond):

(20:10:59) tbuitenh: actually it can be set up in a simple way:
(20:11:35) tbuitenh: create yet another page: freedomaccounts.org
(20:11:57) tbuitenh: let people log in on the existing pages either with their existing accounts...
(20:12:11) tbuitenh: OR with

(20:12:31) libervisco: how do you automate that?
(20:12:47) tbuitenh: you only have to change the login code of each site a little bit so it filters out these special logins
(20:13:04) tbuitenh: and forwards them to the freedomaccounts.org server
(20:13:18) tbuitenh: which then replies with "accepted" or "refused"
(20:13:32) libervisco: hmm
(20:13:48) libervisco: maybe we can try something like that on libervis network
(20:14:22) tbuitenh: of course the domain should be shorter than "freedomaccounts.org", cause that's damn inconvenient to type
(20:16:21) tbuitenh: the benefit of this extra server idea is that no old accounts have to be modified at all
(20:16:58) libervisco: only the login php script, right?
(20:17:14) libervisco: no db changes
(20:17:46) tbuitenh: yes, and even that would be a patch of just a few lines

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If you ask me to vote, I'll vote XOOPS for libervis.com and PhpBB for nuxified.org. Libervis.com could never run on PhpBB because it uses lots of XOOPS modules. If you were to use PhpBB there, you would need a separate wiki and a separate FAQ thing and a separate gallery and a separate ANYTHING, meaning a user needs even more accounts than he has now.

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"supermike" wrote:

* Call a vote on XOOPS vs. phpBB and see which one people prefer. Stick with whatever people suggest, or, for the really insane, give them a cookie that let's them choose which interface they want to see when they hit the site.

You do understand that XOOPS != PHPBB ?

Thus you can't just get rid of the XOOPS and replace it with phpbb, since XOOPS does so much more, such as support the blogging system, the wiki, articles and news. PHPBB is a BB system, nothing more, nothing less.

dylunio

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"supermike" wrote:

Sounds like a plan. My mind has a marketing bent sometimes. I want to help you achieve your goals.

I realize you want to help and I appreciate that. Smiling

"supermike" wrote:

* Switch to drupal at network.libervis.com. I like the frontpage look of nuxified.org the best.

You mean Nuxified.com. Well, http://network.libervis.com has just been redesigned. I don't think it necessarily requires a system like drupal and I wanted to write it from scratch (and learn on the way), but if it would be needed I can setup drupal there. The only things it should need though is plain pages with links and RSS feeds, and that capability is present as it is. It doesn't need a database. It's just a hub to other sites.

"supermike" wrote:

* Drop the "network" part so that you go to some .com or .org to make it easy and then choose to go from there to somewhere else. Make it a catchy title with a great logo, yet easy to remember like lxer.com.

Why drop the "network" part? It is still different sites, and it always will be. The network.libervis.com site is merely a kind of front-end to what is available on these sites. The network.libervis.com will later be moved to Libervis.net domain so that should be fairly catchy and easy to remember. Libervis.com deserves to hold the namesake to the network because it is where it all started, and it is most general broadly scratching almost-all topics that may be covered more specifically by other sites. Libervis.com is also a think tank of Libervis Network.

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* Synchronize the accounts, even if that means putting everyone in one database and reissuing passwords to their email addresses.

Well, maybe what tbuitenh suggested could work.

"supermike" wrote:

* Drop the other .coms and .org so that it's all one organization. That way, you draw people into that top site. I strongly believe that without doing that, then people will go straight to the sub sites -- these other domains, and then you end up with what you have now, where no one seems to want to offer tech support in Nuxified.org. My take is that you need to draw everyone's attention to a central point and advertise the other sub groups from there, in order to achieve an effect. Want to help noobs? Fine, whenever I read a news site or try to cut an advanced tech support request under this new network, I get to see a well-placed ribbon somewhere on the screen that begs the question, "Have you helped a noob today? We'd like to grow our network. Please consider it." and a link to where the noobs hang out.

We don't need to drop .coms and .orgs to promote one central location people can have an overview from. The central location you describe can be there on network.libervis.com. Those marketing ideas also aren't out of reach to that.

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* Create almost one consistent look except perhaps the color theme is different among the sites.

Why? Again these are different sites. Shouldn't it be better to differentiate their looks a bit instead of same old same old? There could be certain common characteristics, but why should they be the same or even so similar? It should be enough actually to have that network bar upthere to identify them as libervis networked.

"supermike" wrote:

* Make the news site load extremely fast but yet be about as informative as lxer.com on its frontpage without having to click anything unless you really want to do so.

Seen this?

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Suggestion for Regulars

If you're a regular at nux, I have a suggestion for you. If you ask a question, and even if no one responds, and then eventually you either find a workaround or the solution, take the time to post it, even if it's just a hyperlink.

Why? Well, I think it will increase the likelihood that users will start using these forums the way they were primarily intended, and that's for questions AND answers. Unfortunately there are more unanswered questions here than I would like to see.

Another thing that perhaps could help would be a brainstorming where we come up with the top 60 questions that noobs and meeds have with linux and stick these q/a's in their perspective forums anonymously, giving them more life.

I also think that nux needs to advertise it's strengths over other forums. Its greatest strength is its kindness and anti-RTFM-ness to noobs and meeds. Perhaps some airtime at the linux link radio show would help? Or, perhaps a writeup in tux magazine would help?

(Sent from bberry)

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I agree with that

I agree with that supermike.

If anyone finds an answer to a question either he/she or someone else posted, just reply with that answer. It shouldn't take much and would be appreciated. I bet you would also be rewarded by a few points to your post by our new rating system too. Eye

I'll try to setup an unanswered topics page though that should help get more answers to these.

supermike wrote:

I also think that nux needs to advertise it's strengths over other forums. Its greatest strength is its kindness and anti-RTFM-ness to noobs and meeds. Perhaps some airtime at the linux link radio show would help? Or, perhaps a writeup in tux magazine would help?

We certainly need to advertise in some ways, any ways we can with the low or nonexistant budget that we have. Sticking out tongue For all the Nuxified.org members it would be appreciated if you put Nuxified.org in your signature, at the least. Of course, any promotion or mentioning on other forums should be in reasonable ways, not outright spamming (as that is actually negative promotion for us, something Nuxified.org definitely doesn't need).

As for the radio show there are some technical issues that stand in the way of me being in one of those radio shows. I don't use skype, but even if I were my connection is so laggy that I wonder if there would be any point talking over it in a radio show without annoying listeners and the in a "studio" too much. Of course though maybe we could get a mention at least. I'll look around and possibly contact them to tell them about our new site and ask if they could mention it. In exchange and as a sign of good will we can display some of their advertisings (banners) over Libervis Network. Smiling

I'll check out Tux Magazines and other publications as well. After the core technical stuff is done and the site can be called "out of beta" more promotional activities should take place, though any kind of promotion we could get already now would be great.

Thanks
Daniel

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